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The Hive => Tryptamine Chemistry => Topic started by: taranis on August 21, 2001, 09:12:00 AM

Title: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: taranis on August 21, 2001, 09:12:00 AM
I have a novel idea on a possable synth for this interesting
tryptamine. i would like any bee's advice.
starting from melatonin with lah reduction to yeild
5-meo-et (ethyl tryptamine) then treated with HNO3 at 0c
and further treated with warm dH2O yeilding 5-meo-hydroxy-t
wich could be put through any of varyos forms of rductive
amination
any input would bee much apreceated.
thnx
Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: taranis on August 21, 2001, 09:49:00 AM
oops i just found some info on this. but maby it is worth further discution
Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Lilienthal on August 21, 2001, 05:44:00 PM
Coool, animated tryptamines...  :)
Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Bwiti on August 24, 2001, 06:15:00 PM
I would kiss the ground someone walks on if they can find a use for melatonin, because it's cheap. Maybe a reduction with NaBH4, catalyzed by nickel boride would create something worth ingesting? Either way, this is an exciting topic! :P

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Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Rhodium on August 25, 2001, 03:51:00 AM

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/mexamine.txt (https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/mexamine.txt)

Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Bwiti on August 25, 2001, 01:24:00 PM
Yep, I've seen the mexamine synth, but I don't know if it's active?  :P

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Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: jim on August 25, 2001, 03:26:00 PM
You could try alkylating the mexamine into something more interesting.

Try using MeX and poly(ethylene gylcol) in water, or alcohol.  Or even isopropyl chloride...
Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: taranis on August 26, 2001, 12:09:00 PM
mexamine is 5-meo-nmt. acording to tihkal it is  as far
as we know not active.
Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Zen on January 09, 2002, 11:55:00 PM


"I would kiss the ground someone walks on if they can find a use for melatonin.." -Bwiti



Over here next to me, it's a spot where Shulgin stepped.

Melatonin > 5-Meo-DIPT

-Zen

Ref: Tihkal

"To a solution of 3.0 g 5-methoxytryptamine (see under melatonin for its preparation) in 20 mL sulfolane (tetramethylenesulfone) there was added 8.2 g diisopropylethyl amine and 10.7 g 2-iodopropane, and the two-phase mixture was heated on the steam bath with frequent shaking. After 3 h, the mixture was brought back to room temperature and stirred vigorously for an additional 16 h. After the removal of all volatiles under vacuum, the residue (30 g) was diluted with 100 mL H2O, which gave a clear solution. The addition of 10 mL 5% aqueous NaOH produced a cloudy suspension that was extracted with 3x40 mL hexane. These pooled extracts were stripped of solvent to yield 1.0 g of an almost colorless oil that was distilled at the KugelRohr. A small cut at 100 °C (at 0.01 mm / Hg) proved to be largely residual sulfolane (about 0.01 g) and the bulk of the product distilled at 140-150 °C to give a viscous white oil, 0.80 g. This was dissolved in 3.5 mL IPA and neutralized with 15 drops of concentrated HCl. The addition of five drops of anhydrous Et2O instigated crystallization, and the product was removed by filtration, washed with 4:1 IPA / Et2O mixture, and air-dried. There was thus obtained 0.85 g of a fine white crystalline product, 5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine hydrochloride (5-MeO-DIPT), with a mp 181-182 °C (17%). IR (in cm-1): 731, 809, 826, 931, 1035, 1064, with an NH at 3165. MS (in m/z): C7H16N+ 114 (100%); C4H10N+ 72 (31%); methoxyindolemethylene+ 160 (12%); parent ion 274 (<1%). There was no detectable 5-MeO-NIPT by GC (<1%)."

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal37.shtml (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal37.shtml)

Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Lem2 on January 29, 2002, 05:18:00 AM
jim, "Try using MeX and poly(ethylene gylcol) in water, or alcohol." could you please elaborate? Does poly-ethylene glycol stop the formation of the quaternary salt?

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Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: cheeseboy on February 05, 2002, 10:42:00 AM
What kind of high does mexamine produce?

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Title: Re: 5-meo-dmt
Post by: Rhodium on February 05, 2002, 04:26:00 PM
None. It must be dialkylated on the nitrogen first. Mexamine is 5-MeO-Tryptamine.