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The Hive => Methods Discourse => Topic started by: cheeseboy on January 29, 2002, 12:29:00 AM

Title: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: cheeseboy on January 29, 2002, 12:29:00 AM
Cheese find crystalization very interesting. It's so cool the way free bases can be crystalized by different acids to yield the same drug but with a different nature. Cheese knows hydrochlorides are made via HCl, Sulphates are made via H2SO4, and phosphates are made via Phosphoric acid . So what other acids will work to crystalize with? Nitrate via Nitric acid?
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: Elementary on January 29, 2002, 12:35:00 AM
Nitric acid may well oxidise the freebase !
Or you may get explosive meth !
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: cheeseboy on January 29, 2002, 12:38:00 AM
That shit would ROCK! Or Meth Formate using formic acid. Poisonous?
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: PrimoPyro on January 29, 2002, 12:39:00 AM
Theoretically, any acid that will readily donate a proton to the amine group, to form the ammonium ion, will crystallize when removed from solvation.

Things to think about:

Acetate
Nitrate
Hydrobromide
Hydroiodide
Lactate
g-Hydroxybutyrate
a-Lipoate
Ascorbate
Tartrate
Citrate

                                                  PrimoPyro
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: Elementary on January 29, 2002, 12:42:00 AM
What about lysergic acid ! :o
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: PrimoPyro on January 29, 2002, 12:44:00 AM
Sure, if you only want to ingest under one milligram of methamphetamine, why not?  :P

                                                     PrimoPyro
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: Elementary on January 29, 2002, 12:52:00 AM
I can remember FMAN once saying that amphetamine formate is as potent as methamphetamine, wonder if there is any truth in that ?
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: PrimoPyro on January 29, 2002, 12:53:00 AM
Did he say why? Do you remember what thread it was? I'd like to read that.

                                                   PrimoPyro
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: Elementary on January 29, 2002, 01:36:00 AM
God knows how he spelt it !

It may well of been edited or deleted, but I just can't find it with the search engine !
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: PrimoPyro on January 29, 2002, 01:48:00 AM
Was it under the username "FMAN" or another name?
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Title: Re: Crystalizing Acids
Post by: Elementary on January 29, 2002, 01:52:00 AM
I think it was PVnRT_NC8
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Title: Re: cool
Post by: cheeseboy on January 30, 2002, 09:04:00 PM
Cheese loves acids. They are cool.
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