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jacolives:

--- Quote from: carl on December 21, 2021, 07:51:37 PM ---They use it on the resolved l-meth, and those who use it, use it on pure l-meth, because those have a high degree of sophistication.

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Could you provide a reference for this ?  I am not having much luck searching.

-edit- never mind I found it

arkoma:
CJNG are cold blooded killers no doubt.  https://linkanonymous.com/?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruapan_massacre

Rawhide Kobayashi:

--- Quote from: d00d on December 19, 2021, 02:18:06 AM ---Not that we have meth on our planet but; Ich don't think so.  Just no.  P2P meth? No.

Your a cartel lord; WHY WOULD YOU WORK UP TO P2P? Please tell us why. Why when you can call your sino-soviet cartels and get the proper enantiomer foodthings by the drum, by the drum, by the drum.

Hell they avoid P2P like the plague. Logic time, not to be a dick.  But its time to think logically.

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Methinks this fellow is speaking from his behind  ::). According to the DEA's own literature, over 99% of seized samples in the US have impurity markers identifying a P2P synthesis route, and of those, the isomeric purity is nearly 98%. This information is published yearly as part of their 'Methamphetamine Profiling Program'.

DerAlteSack:
Comrade d00d seems to have partaken in some deliriants before posting, he may be excused, but one might not forget that DEA publications are primarily a means of politics and not of science.

All this has not very much to do with meth or P2P or anything like this, it is just easy to blame meth for much more fundamental shortcomings. But it is not my country not my problem, not that I could do anything about it.
Good luck.

PS: I just read some testing results from Canada and there they find a lot of ISO in the meth. Same in NY. Maybe they should outsource the testing to the DEA for more consistent results?

jacolives:

--- Quote from: DerAlteSack on December 28, 2021, 05:16:14 AM ---Comrade d00d seems to have partaken in some deliriants before posting, he may be excused, but one might not forget that DEA publications are primarily a means of politics and not of science.

All this has not very much to do with meth or P2P or anything like this, it is just easy to blame meth for much more fundamental shortcomings. But it is not my country not my problem, not that I could do anything about it.
Good luck.

PS: I just read some testing results from Canada and there they find a lot of ISO in the meth. Same in NY. Maybe they should outsource the testing to the DEA for more consistent results?

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I suspect this has more to do with the peculiarities of the meth market in New York.  Despite being a major population and drug center, methamphetamine has really only arrived in New York in the last couple of years. I suspect this is a simple case of local distributors trying to increase profits by diluting what they sell.  Once the area is properly flooded with already cheap very pure meth, the consequences of a free market will put these types of people largely out of business.  Canada is a similar story, by consequence of there being a second border to cross… methamphetamine on the street level is likely much more expensive than it is in ALL of the United States, and there is significantly less of it. The price for going across an international border isn’t the same for each border necessarily either. Let’s say one unit of meth costs 25 Kerplizzles (25 K) in Mexico.  Well the price might double to 50 K per unit just for crossing the border.  Then it is moved to a northern state and all of the sudden the wholesale price is 100 K.  So it arrives in Canada.  Does the price go up only to 125 K?  No it might go up to 150 K or maybe 200 even.  200 Kerplizzles for one measly unit of methamphetamine that cost only 25 Kerplizzles in Mexico last Tuesday!  This is assuming wholesaling… what the end user pays is a different story.

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