This thread was my very first post here at the hive and truly started Gluecifer down a path full of honey!
Since this post swim has done over 50 rxns, with maybe 10 of them being LWR. Let me tell you it is the easisest, route to pure methamphetamine. It also sports better yeilds than the push/pull rxn. But, swim can't say that the potency is any better than his pp shit because, he feels he has the push/pull down pat. :)
Ibee pm'd a certain Ancient Alchemist at the Hive, and he summed up how to get killer shit from the push pull every time.(At least swim did after following his fellow bees directions.)
Anyway, swim thought it would be fitting that he try to convey the correct way to do the push/push pull. Just the rxn, no notes on construction of the apparatus.
Here it goes. (This would be for a pseudoephedrine HCL reaction.)All reagents must be of the utmost cleanliness!!!! If one thinks their reagents are not clean enough than they are probably not. :)
First of all we need 4ml of h2o for every ounce of pfed. One may adjust their water if usining Iodine crystals from tincture, as if not properly dried the may still contain h2o.
Gluecifer does not make his HI first he puts in his reagents in this order: Pfed, Iodine, RP, H2O. Hint:Always have an ice bath around, will sometimes save your ass with runaway starts.
After you add the reagents together one may or may not need to add heat immediately. Try heating up the flask with your palm at first. If U haft to add heat at first, put in on 100 degrees F. You should have some bubbling now. Slowy raise to 150F. Don't get carried away here and crank the heat excessively or to quickly, give it time to transfer to the reagents. :)
Keep your shit at 150F until the bubbling slows and one must swirl it to keep the rxn going. About 50 minutes to an hour should have passed by now. At this point it is time to push the heat to 190F. This will bring on Phase 2.
After this one must simply let the reaction run it's self out. All the action inside the rxn vessel will subside and the bubbles will be small and clear.
About one hour and 15 minutes to one hour and a half will have passed during this time.
After this do the post-reaction workup and Viola, killer ass honey. Follow this write-up verbatim Post 428962 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8697.msg42896200#msg42896200)
(Osmium: "RP/I2 post-reaction workup: The short version", Stimulants). Also read the first four posts in this thread.
Don't skimp and not recrystallize, recrystillazation and doing an A/B before basifying are two steps that must not be skipped, if you want primo honey!
I hope that bees can understand this, because it is almost plaguerized from a PM an elder bee sent me a while ago and since then my honey has been top notch(compared to everyting else Gluecifer has sampled, whether it be from his area or out on the road.
P.S. Gluecifer knows that there are already many write ups on the pp, but he felt that this was concise and like he said, if the directions are followed killer shit every time.
Peace to all ya Beez
made one, like halfkast(spectral), suggested a long time ago. The main reason Gluecifer still push/pulls is because he can make killer meth that way and it does not take as long. This is the main point swim was wanting to get across.
Swim may lose a bit of wieght compared to the LWR, but guess he is just hard headed.
BTW,Post 448297 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=5748.msg44829700#msg44829700)
(halfkast: "glucifer69 I think swig should just make ...", Chemicals & Equipment), works like a charm and like swim said so much thanx to all whom have helped. :)