Got a wee bit distracted by typing the actual post instead of being more specific with the reaction..heres the link:
https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/p2p.manganese.html (https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/p2p.manganese.html)
Thx for the help so far..that was about the only valid method I was able to come up with in the search- wanted to get a few more opinions as well..