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foxy2

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2001, 04:01:00 PM »
Shit all this stuff is right here at the HiveTM
And RhodiumTM

If you can't search and read then you don't deserve to fly.
Beez should earn their wings.  And Antibody is 100% correct on safety!!!

Wouldn't it bee fun to go to jail and burn your house down, all because you don't have a fire extinguisher and bucket of water on hand?

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encopo

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2001, 01:55:00 AM »
I must admit I'm somewhat split in this debate.

On one hand I believe that all information should be free,
and that having this "list" would allow us to prosper in the
face of oppression.

On the otherhand, however, I feel that there would be a
large amount of people that would be doing it "ghetto"
style, and can't be bothered putting in the effort to make
good product.

If someone can't be bothered to find out how to get/make
a precursor, then what makes us think they'll be bothered
to make the product well/fit for consumption. As I've said
before, this is stuff that people will be putting into
their BODIES!

However, there does seem to be a need for a larger amount
of information regarding various precursor synthesis for
those who would benefit from it.

Perhaps if these synthesis did not state the specific
OTC source that is required, but rather let ppl find it
for themselves, this could work as a "filter" for the
undesirables.

Having said that, no world is free from undesirables, and
there are many out there who are willing to put in the
effort, but can't be buggered creating satisfactory
product. Moreover, there are those that can't be bothered
researching, but want to make everything nice 'n' clean.

Ponderously yours,
      Encopo.

Don't mind me. I'm mentally ill.

tomjuan

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2001, 04:26:00 AM »
My local university library already has such a database - it's collectively called the "chemistry abstracts" . . .

But seriously, as good as that sounds, isn't such a document going to be the size of the federal tax code? There are so many ways to make different compounds, and novel syntheses are being developed all the time. Maintaining a database like that sounds like it would be a full-time job . . . actually, now that I think about it, send me an application :)

foxy2

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2001, 03:01:00 AM »

Maintaining a database like that sounds like it would be a full-time job . . .




Why don't you ask Rhodium
:)

Or maybee you should THANK Rhodium!


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Rhodium

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »
Yeah, right.  :)  I already have a few full time jobs - The Hive, my archive, school and my social life.

unnilhexium

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2001, 04:13:00 AM »
I think newbees would benefit more from a comprehensive database of lab safety, proper lab technique, proper use of equipment, and cleaning of equipment.  We could even through in a quick reference of the IUPAC naming system and the functional groups at no extra charge. :)

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foxy2

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2001, 05:36:00 AM »
unnilhexium/newbee's
This thread

Post 181182

(LaBTop: "Professional Chemistry Links", Methods Discourse)
will have links to sites that answer ALL of those questions, just look.  I would suggest looking first at the sites LabTop commented favorably on.


Also you should buy one of the recomended lab techniques books that are mentioned if you UTFSE.

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Bwiti

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2001, 11:22:00 AM »
"Make them search and earn their wings"

  Kind of like earning your red wings; It's tough, messy work, but when it's done you get a feeling of satisfaction. 8)

  Split a piece of wood and I am there. Lift a stone and you will find me.

BoReD_HiLlBiLlY

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Re: precursor precursor database
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2001, 09:21:00 AM »
lab safety is a must,id definately be receptive of some lab technique 101 lessons. id prefer to do things the right way, the first time, as a person who is cheap as i am hates wasted money chemicals effort and time.and if you'd include a lot of safety adivice and how to control runaways on the various synths discussed on here. perhaps a lotta newbees like myself wouldnt be popping up in the news due to something getting out of control and exploding cause he didnt know the saftey precautions

if i cant make it i wont take it