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PolytheneSam

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http://www.loc.gov/
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2002, 06:08:00 AM »
You could look here. 

http://www.loc.gov/


Calling government offices is often futile.  They give you phone numbers for other people to talk to and/or try connect you with other people who might be out of their office.  You can leave a message, though.  Often there is a voice menu which you have to listen to for a long time. 

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foxy2

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its in some libraries
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2002, 08:23:00 PM »
swif wouldn't know how many libraries
She might go look thru them when she has time,

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josef_k

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Regarding diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinyl-methanol, I ...
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2002, 05:33:00 PM »
Regarding diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinyl-methanol, I have now looked through all the posts in alt.drugs.chemistry in 1995 for threads which looked like they could be about the above (without any stimulants!). I found nothing. However google seemed to be missing a lot of posts around jun - apr so maybe it's there...

This compound makes me very interested. If the dosage is right it must be one of the most potent stimulants ever! If I would say that the structure is Ph2-COH-(2-pyrrolidinyl) would I be right? If we can't locate the posting to alt.drugs.chemistry, how would one go about to synth this thing? React HC=O-(2-pyrrolidinyl) with 2 mol PhMgBr perhaps? But I suppose you would first have to N-protect, unless you were making the N-methyl.

Edit: I've thought about it some more and relalized that it won't work with HC=O-(2-pyrrolidinyl), you have to use CH3O(C=O)-(2-pyrrolidinyl), then it should work. If the "drawing" is unclear it's supposed to be a methyl ester. I've seen a reaction that does just that.

PolytheneSam

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Microgram
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2002, 07:47:00 PM »

Rhodium

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JCLICA
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2002, 11:57:00 AM »
Sam: I suppose the same restrictions apply to Journal of the Clandestine Laboratory Investigating Chemists Association?

josef_k

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Ok, now I've found out how to make the compound I
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2002, 10:42:00 AM »
Ok, now I've found out how to make the compound I was talking about earlier. Direct your attention to Patent FR 3638M.

The patents main thing is not the methanol but the methane. They patent this for CNS stimulant activity. It is made through the ethyl ester of proline to the methanol mentioned earlier in this thread, and then reduced. They do not N-protect however so their yields seem quite low.

What bugs me is that they say the dosage for the methane is 25-100mg and 100-700mg daily. Can it really get that much less potent just by reducing the methanol to a methane? The methanol is supposed to be 2-5mg, remember. This makes me wonder if perhaps the chemist in alt.drugs.hard was lying, or perhaps even Designers drug directory.

Edit: Oops, corrected one methane which should have been methanol.

Rhodium

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Médicament Psychotonique
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2002, 03:25:00 PM »
Josef: For us who do not speak french fluently, could you please translate the synthetic details for both compounds as well as their pharmacology? If you do that, I'll put the document on my page.

josef_k

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I don't speak french fluently either...
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2002, 03:48:00 PM »
I don't speak french fluently either... I have studied it for 3 years in "high school", and I've managed to forget most of it. So perhaps some other french bee is better of translating it. But if noone else have translated it after some time has passed I'll give it a try.

And also, there is only pharmacology data for the methane, not for the methanol.

foxy2

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Oh yea?
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2002, 04:38:00 PM »
Microgram seems to be available only to LE forensics labs and scientists.

Then why does a public library that SWIF knows of has this on the shelf?

Maybe I'll do some more digging to see what I can come up with

PolytheneSam

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So what are you waiting for?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2002, 04:47:00 PM »
So what are you waiting for?  Start xeroxing, scanning and uploading it somewhere. 

What's this mean?

http://www.cfda.gov/public/viewprog.asp?progid=482



ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS:

Applicant Eligibility:   Forensic laboratories or scientists doing work for law enforcement agencies.

Beneficiary Eligibility:   Forensic laboratories or scientists doing work for law enforcement agencies.

Credentials/Documentation:   The applicant must apply on official letterhead of a law enforcement agency.

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Bwiti

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Just One Synth!
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2002, 02:41:00 AM »
Please scan/post just one interesting dissociative synth.. Just one synthesis fix![Smacking my arm to get my info-vein to the surface] :)

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ChemisTris

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Microgram abstracts
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2002, 12:18:00 AM »
I have put my collection of Microgram abstracts online, for all your browsing pleasure.

http://chemistris.tripod.com


Rhodium is going to put them on his page (or here) in september.

foxy2: Did you ever find microgram on your library shelf?

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ClearLight

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articles
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2002, 09:35:00 AM »
Will we get the articles as well or just the abstracts?


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ChemisTris

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Articles
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2002, 06:30:00 PM »
As you may have noticed, "Microgram" is resricted in it's circulation.
They term it "controlled circulation". Thus, it is not easy to get the articles unless one works in the forensic area. I'm am glad just to have the abstracts, as it provides some insight into microgram.
Ofcourse, I would much prefer the full articles, and if i ever get hold of some of them, i will share. This may be possible for me at some time in the future, but not now  :( . I'd love to know if anybee has access to more than i do in this area.

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GC_MS

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Librarian
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2002, 11:56:00 PM »
You could always ask your librarian to request some articles from Microgram  :) . The distribution of the magazine is limited, the distribution of requested articles by libraries is not. Although the scientific contribution of Microgram is rather low (you won't find sensational new synthesis routes or hidden possibilities to double your yields), it is a very useful magazine, especially for newbees. It regularly contains reviews of synthesis routes, together with suspected impurities etc. But very interesting - and that is to everyone - are the pages that deal with new finds and oddities: heroine from Pakistan is blablabla, meth lab bust in Cali reveals new synth method blablabla, newest blotting paper from Kansas blablabla, DEA's plans for the future *cough*, Training sessions (by for instance the DEA  :)  :)  :) ) etc etc etc.
SWiM has a couple of their articles, and he is delighted a bee made the effort to put all their abstracts online. For who can get this magazine, try and read it... The title could have been Official Forensic Chemistry Bulletin of the DEA as well... Thanks ChemisTris!

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bottleneck

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Bull. Narc.
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2002, 07:12:00 AM »
Something similar to this, but from bygone era, can be had by reading The Bulletin of Narcotic Drugs (

http://www.undcp.org/bulletin_on_narcotics.html

).

Also, The Journal of Forensic Sciences has insight into the working of the Evil Empire. There is also a journal called International Journal of Legal Medicine which I think has articles by forensic chemists.

Ziqquratu

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Access to Microgram
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2003, 07:33:00 AM »
Taken from

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/archives.html

:

Requests for Microgram Archives, 1967 - 2002

All issues of Microgram (November 1967 - March 2002) and the first nine issues of its successor Microgram Bulletin (April - December, 2002) were Law Enforcement Restricted publications, and are therefore (permanently) unavailable to the general public. [Note that this restriction includes requests made under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act.]

Past issues or individual sections of issues (e.g., specific articles) are available to law enforcement affiliated offices and laboratories. Requests from such offices and laboratories must be made on official letterhead and mailed to:

Deputy Assistant Administrator
Office of Forensic Sciences
Drug Enforcement Administration
2401 Jefferson Davis Highway
Alexandria, VA 22301

Note that requests made via email will not be honored.


However, it would appear that access to the more modern articles is possible:
Microgram Bulletin and Microgram Journal (hereafter collectively referred to as Microgram) are both unclassified (as of the January 2003 issues), and are published on the DEA public access website (www.dea.gov). Private citizens should use the website to access Microgram.

I looked around, and got the address for the Microgram Bulletins - I think this is what you're after

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/bulletins_index.html



Hope this is of some interest, and that it isn't redundant!

ClearLight

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Hehe...
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2003, 09:46:00 AM »
CL happens to know for a fact that ALL of the issues of microgram are about to magically appear on the web in the next couple of months ( no I'm not associated w/ the project, so don't ask for copies).  Scanning is just about complete... I predict around june or so..

  I'm sure this smashing blow for freedom which will include all copies from 1970 to present, will greatly facilitate efforts here... ;D


jimwig

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library access
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2003, 11:55:00 AM »
no (afaik) university, -public or private libraries in the SE hold any copies. :source(TFSE)

these include some rather large medical repositories.

you know forensics is more likely to show up in law libraries - right.

but still looking........

foxy2

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Microgram really isn't worth looking for.
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2003, 08:23:00 AM »
Microgram really isn't worth looking for.  Its more like good entertainment for bees with a few worthwhile tidbits scattered around. 

I saw a pic of the first acid I ever ate in it.  That was neat.