Author Topic: Vogel 3rd edition online  (Read 9409 times)

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sYnThOmAtIc

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I have a running linux box on my network.
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2002, 03:47:00 AM »
I have a running linux box on my network. Though i have never heard of deja vu!! I want to read that tlc manual but it was deja vu. Rhodium, Shouldl i jsut go to linuxapps.com and look for dejavu under compression?

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AHHH i overloked the link. Give me a few minutes to swap HD's and download/install. Hope I dont have to compile the damn program or else i'll have to update a few things first.

catfish

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can't open...
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2002, 03:58:00 AM »
Can't open the .zip file. does anybee have a solution to my predicament? I am not very computer literate but my boss at work is but he doesn't need to know about all this, so maybee a helpful bee could suggest an ?application? is that right? to use to open the file. Have win2000 and pentium II, if that helps. Thanx.
                          -catfish

...who wants honey, as long as there's some money...

Rhodium

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The PDF file is now available at http://www.
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2002, 04:11:00 AM »
The PDF file is now available at

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/archive/vogel3.pdf

for those who have trouble unzipping so large PDF files (might have something to do with low memory). The file is ~73 MB.

Due to bandwidth reasons, PLEASE download the file to your harddrive FIRST, instead of reading it online. If you don't comply with this, and I see it being downloaded several times from the same IP, I will remove it.

Aurelius

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good bye
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2002, 05:01:00 AM »
Just wanted to say Good bye to everyone before aurelius' boss does aurelius in for printing the 1200+ page document at work.   ;D

sYnThOmAtIc

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So do you want the dehja vu format still?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2002, 05:15:00 AM »
So do you want the dehja vu format still? I didnt jsut do a ftp install for nothing.  Just pm me with instructions on uploading the file to you. Or i could jsut set upa user based ftp server and give you an account? let me know

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Ok qt 3.05 is still compiling fucking shit only 15megs and this is a dual pIII800 hah what a piece of shit I oughta buy another alpha sever. Anyway after that finishes I get to compile the actual program then if all is well I will have a useless bunch of new programs on my comp cause Rhodium disappeared or doesnt believe me.

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da#n f!cking Qt sucks @ss. It is still compiling >:( .

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Ok now i'm just tired and bored. Man I have downloaded iso images of all three linux mandrake 8.2 cds (2,200 mb total) plus one prosuite cd +670mb and this f^ck!ng dependency for deajlib is still creaping along Hell i could even burn all four cd's at 1x and the damn thing will still be going..........Linux has an unnesecarily long application install at times but hey I'll take it over windows anyday. I'l shut up before i get an insignificant rating.

acid_egg

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Rhodium why don't you keep it in zip format,my ...
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2002, 05:29:00 AM »
Rhodium why don't you keep it in zip format,my problem was most likely a malfunction of 'Download accelerator plus'[used for resume function] which displayed some errors
during multiple download sessions.
Catfishs' above appears to be that he just doesn't have winzip.


When your intent is in accordance with the Universe, things start happening.

Rhodium

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To many people will fail to download the zip file ...
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2002, 07:36:00 AM »
To many people will fail to download the zip file correctly than you have to retry with your downloader. Use getright, it works.

sYnThOmAtIc

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File is 40mb still. couldnt get the linuxverson ...
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2002, 11:26:00 AM »
File is 40mb still. couldnt get the linuxverson working my 6.1 is too old i need to update to a newer version. I converted it online and is still pretty big. Not going to help anybody with dialup view it. The site said 10x reduction with pics only pd fand ocs is reduced 1-3x. I'd say its not worth the trouble of trying to find a djv viewer. i'm off to bed now alter.

hypo

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hmm.... debian rocks :))))
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2002, 11:41:00 AM »
> Linux has an unnesecarily long application install at times

heh... didn't take me 5 minutes:
apt-get install libqt-dev  ;D  ;D  ;D

anyway... i would never ever download copyrighted material, but
a friend of mine living on an off-shore island with satelite feed
downloaded the pdf and compressed it at 200x200dpi using the
c44 encoder. gave a 27mb .djvu file. he could also package it as
say 10 2.7mb files. or try 100x100dpi.

ideally though, an owner of the lizardtech tools would compress
the files (i know we have some  :) )

Chemikaze

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soooo
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2002, 01:41:00 PM »
soooo will you friend post it for download?:)

When I die bury me upside down so the world can kiss my ass.

hypo

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hosting
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2002, 02:11:00 PM »
hmm.. if a kind soul agrees to do the hosting, i'm sure
i can convince my friend to upload/send the file(s)...

Rhodium

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So there! Thanks to the PDF2DjVu conversion by ...
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2002, 01:14:00 AM »
So there! Thanks to the PDF2DjVu conversion by Hypo, Vogel's book is now available in its entirety at my page:

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/vogel3.html


weedar

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Uhmm..
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2002, 01:52:00 AM »
Not to disagree with you there,Chief,but what about copyright,
won't that cause you un-necessary problmes? :(

Weedar

Weedar contains 2,4-D dimethylamine salt,apparently

Rhodium

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I hope there will be no problem with a book ...
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2002, 02:24:00 AM »
I hope there will be no problem with a book published 46 years ago. If there is a problem with the publisher, I'll remove it again.

foxy2

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Probably no prob
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2002, 02:56:00 AM »
Its not even in print anymore is it?

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety

lugh

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Vogel's Third Edition
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2002, 02:58:00 AM »
It's been out of print since the 4th edition came out in 1978  :)

HOCATKA

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Vogel 3rd Edition, better djvu encoding
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2002, 06:12:00 AM »
I've got Vogel 3rd edition in djvu format down to 15.2mb from 27.6 with the same graphics quality.
Let me know if you would like me to upload it somewhere.

Rhodium

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What settings did you use to accomplish that?
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2002, 06:32:00 AM »
What settings did you use to accomplish that?

HOCATKA

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I've used the commercial encoder.
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2002, 06:56:00 PM »
I've used the commercial encoder. DPI, color settings are the same.

UTFSE

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not that I am really concerned BUT (1956) ...
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2002, 10:44:00 PM »
not that I am really concerned BUT
(1956) copywrite law does cover anything created and copywrited
by the original owner for a period of their life time plus so many years.
1978 and later copywrite law automatically protects the creator without even filing.

and there are more recent aspects as well

for instance one may renew the copywrite ad infinitum.
if John Wiley and Son renewed the Vogel 3rd copywrite then
it is indeed protected. and that protection is genrally recognized over most of the planet. But especially in Europe for it seems they like a mutual agreement that is both beneficial and relevant.

So even though SWIUTFSE has in fact copied the aforementioned volume, he thinks publishing it on the internet will bring about stuff on the part of any current copywrite holder.

Having said all that - Polverone (is that four syllables?) you da man.

OTEECEE & meeeee!!!!