Author Topic: R/C Car Fuel Distillation ?  (Read 2438 times)

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ChemMang

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R/C Car Fuel Distillation ?
« on: October 19, 2002, 08:09:00 PM »
I was curious, I UTFSE but no avail.  In this rather interesting dream I had, a Newbie wanted to distill this 97% Nitromethane R/C Car Fuel.  In the dream this newbie had a simple distillation w/ liebig condensor+driptip setup
 well I imagined he wanted heat his Erlenmeyer flask containing this Fuel and connected to the condensor to 101.2 Celsius.  Well I was curious this sounds like it would distill the pure Nitromethane right out of the Fuel as thats Nitromethane's BP. Was this fictional Newbie correct in his hypothesis? ? ?

'UTFSE indeed'

hCiLdOdUeDn

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Whats the question here??
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2002, 08:19:00 PM »
Whats the question here??

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ChemMang

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um..
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2002, 09:06:00 PM »
I was curious if the individual in the dream was correct in his hypothesis that distilling the fuel at 101.2C would leave relatively pure Nitromethane.  Is this correct? ;)

'UTFSE indeed'

MarleyBob

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relativity
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2002, 09:24:00 PM »
I guess that depends on your definition of 'relatively pure'.

pickler

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97% nitro will be fine for a mm al/hg.
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2002, 09:33:00 PM »
97% nitro will be fine for a mm al/hg. If it has lubricants(which is unlikely) wash them out.

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pupilage

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97%
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2002, 12:57:00 AM »
Just do what was posted. Take 100 ml of your dream fuel combine 25 ml of dh2o and decant the water from the fuel. If the 3% is oil then vac distill the dream fuel in this manner ( remove all open flame producers from the area) take the dream fuel and set it up for distillation, then increase hotplate or mantle temp to 60 degree c if there is no for run of liquid then you can be sure the 3% is oil.
Now take temp to 101. I would never distill until near dryness (3% left in boiling flask) instead just distill until about 80% has come over. The 80% you collect will be good to run with and the left over can be placed in another container for later dreams.

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ClearLight

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do the oil test...
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2002, 02:33:00 AM »

 Put a drop on some white inkjet paper...if it leaves a translucent spot, it has oil in it...

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gruns

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brine
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2002, 09:57:00 AM »
a brine bath can take it to 101C and not much beyond,
although it's somewhat messy it works if for some
reason you are having problems controlling temp

over and under, then back to the start
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Diggity

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Simple
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2002, 12:12:00 PM »
This process has been discussed many mnay times.

Distill everything out before 97c, then collect your nitro at 101c

It's not dangerous as some may claim, and if you take your time, you will have high purity nitro.

You can, if you want, leave the nitro exposed to the air in hopes of evaping away the drop or two of meoh/azetrope that may have been left in the condensor you neglected to clean before collecting your next fraction..

& I'm, somethin of a phenom, no need for da cron, I'm un-stopable.   
 

Goodtimes

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97%
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2002, 12:10:00 AM »
Are u sure it is 97%?

if it is, just calculate the additional Nitro that you need to add.  Distill, or just say fuck it, and use as is... as suggested..

GT

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shorts

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Nitromethane in the real world
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2002, 11:07:00 AM »
Nitromethane I understood to be hygroscopic.  That is it will absorb water from the atmosphere.  I had heard of Top Fuel drag cars being disqualified because too much water was in their fuel (high 90s% Nitro).  The water in the fuel was absorbed from the atmosphere???  The reason for the DQ I was told is the water raises the effective compression ratio in the engine because H2O does not compress?

Also I am told that serious RC model racers obtain pure Nitromethane to mix their own RC Fuels.  :)

nutlin

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Nitromethane
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2002, 03:53:00 AM »
Yep, nitromethane is hygrpscopic. And yes it can be bought (pure) for us in RC stuff from hobby shops. They ususally have to order it in though.

hCiLdOdUeDn

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Funny that nitro is hygroscopic because its ...
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »
Funny that nitro is hygroscopic because its solubility in water is not that high....

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Rhodium

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Water dissolves over 10% MeNO2, but only 7% ...
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2002, 06:00:00 AM »
Water dissolves over 10% MeNO2, but only 7% ether. Which one is the most hygroscopic?

hCiLdOdUeDn

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I see what you are talking about chief.
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2002, 02:23:00 AM »
I see what you are talking about chief.

I thought hygroscopic ment the ability to pull water from the air into the nitromethane...

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Rhodium

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It does, but it only refers to how easily water ...
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2002, 02:36:00 AM »
It does, but it only refers to how easily water is initially taken up, and does not consider how many percent water can be taken up before the solvent is saturated with it.

Ether is really hygroscopic, and readily absorbs water, but never more than at most 7%.