You mention an a/b; do you just mean a strait forward waterless a/b, with a few solvent boils beforehand?
That will depend on the brand of pills.
WareTFami,
I have never agreed with your methods, but never responded/belittled them as I have no proof to their efficacy due to the fact that I don't deal with US pills.
So I would expect the same respect, and ask that you don't bother posting in regard to Oz pills.
12cheman12,
Don't bother speaking to me if you have a ripped off username from a respected bee named chemman. At least show the courtesy and imagination to make your own.
If you are the real chemman whom I have met then prove it.
As for methods, do you want me to make a list of every pill in Oz containing pfed and it's own extraction method? Fuck-off the methods are already written and none of them involve PTCEFGHIJKL.
WareTFami,
I have never agreed with your methods, but never responded/belittled them as I have no proof to their efficacy due to the fact that I don't deal with US pills.
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Placebo: That is understandable and as I stated, not being able to effectively disect OZ pills places me at a disadvantage, but on the rare occassions that an OZbee provides a list of inactive ingredients, US DObees are usually able to provide some relief for Ozbees until that formulation changes locally.
The difference between you and I is that my heart goes out to Ozbees when they seek help and I'll do everything in my power to help out, even while beeing at a disadvantage.
I like to think that workarounds provide relief the world over provided the chems and solvents are accessible to AWE bees. As was the case with the Turps Cure(thank you)
If you think they aren't employing OrangeI and II gaaks in OZ, think again, because I've read the detailed crys for help that suggest those gaaks are part of the problem over there. And a large part of the education I've received was a result of paying attention to what OZ bees are hit with because some of the formulations originated overseas that are affecting US bees.
I could have run three LWR rxns in the time I've sat addressing OZbees chem aquistion problems and helping to develope solutions tailored toward similar gaaks found in your area of the globe.
Just as sublevel says...The Technology is world wide in the pharmaceutical industry.
Did not your Turps cure save the US from the POV wars?
Well the Egull and IDEA methods spelled relief for OZbees as well until formulations changed.
Then came time for JapanDrier and Tetra based on the changes found.
That entailed alittle more effort than getting pissed and forgetting the pillmass sitting in turps for a day and discovering that the POV was removed.
Please spare me nd the rest of us the respect bullshit!
I give it 120% where it's due and you of all people should know that. And that says nothing percentage-wise of what I give back to the collective, all of which is the result of hands on experimentation. Not specualtion!
You've left yourself wide open on more than one occassion while addressing my contributions and out of respect I held my tongue.
I have no control whatsoever over the list of chems and solvents available to Ozbees. But I'll e the first to search and research suitable substitutes.
In case you didn't know it, I'm a main supporter of the "NO BEE LEFT BEHIND" CAMP-PAIN in this WOD! :o ;D
I know what is available in the states and I've spent cuntless(oooppps freudian slip ;) ) hours looking for compatible substitutes for your fellow countrymen. The OZbees that I call friends.
All I asked of you since your so excited about helping your bros over there, is to put your money where your mouth is and show them a technique that works and that appears to be too monumental a task for you because of all the formulations you've come across.
So Bee it!
One liners aren't much help IMHO, and with what ALL BEES are facing today, alot more is involved with getting your hands dirty instead of relying on longstanding reputation to help others out of a jam.
Thanx Bees for the support and standing behind what Ibee beelieves In.
But the War On Drugs continues and helping the collective should be the focus of intent regardless of your place of origin.
I think I have earned the right to say "PUT UP or SHUT UP"!
I think that's the purpose for this board beeing here! Sharing what works.
And placebo, please refer to this thread
Look at the date.....nothings changed in my willingness to help out in spite of the disadvantages. Some see a brick wall and walk the other way! That's how much they care!
Post 509747 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=7988.msg50974700#msg50974700)
(Shane_Warne: "Any technique using alcohol or acetone as the...", Stimulants) and the following few again?Post 512341 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8445.msg51234100#msg51234100)
(wareami: "Okay....", Stimulants) and with Placebo's comments inPost 512394 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8445.msg51239400#msg51239400)
(placebo: "Blah, Blah, Blah! Your very good at using as...", Stimulants). I understand what Shane_Warne says inPost 512356 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8445.msg51235600#msg51235600)
(Shane_Warne: "Just listen.", Stimulants) and understand why he uses the tone he uses posting his comments.