Don't Bee Fooled by The Rocks That I Got!
Dat-E-Legless!
Nothing like the Dat-E-LongLegs Ibee's accustomed to spinning long webtales with!
When Geez first posted this thread, The village idiot trapped inside my head whispered to me..."This looks like a job for the "CrashTestDummies"!
So off we went to the sanitarium again to see what the CTD's arrived at, and most importantly, if they held-UP and arrived in one peace!
Two vastly different worlds collide in unison here sparked by the only one common denominator...pfed!
WareWoofs are famous for barking at the moon, but seldom will ya find `em barking UP the wrong tree.
Since so many variables exist, let's eliminate the speculations on those that are excluded as the possible causes in this case.
•Underreduced
•Racemic via pre-rxn basing
•Failed Rxn
•Hypo/HI or RP/HI rxns
While they may seem relevant in some cases, experience, practice, and "skill in the art" lead the way in analytical determination and consistancy.
Given geez's longstanding good rep in this field, I was confident he'd ruled out most of the possible causes before he even posted this thread.
I also knew we'd arrive at similar conclusions once the variables were narrowed down.
Amalgum: You brought up a key term describing what's missing in the picture here..."euphoria"
Add to that...some things that Ibee confirms along the lines of what brought this subject to all bees attention.
Health effects and general feelings of well-being seem to be affected.
Since long before this became an issue, Ibee's been keeping tabs on changes in formulations. It will be one year on the 31st since I posted this
Post 436832 (missing)
(wareami: "Brand Spanking Newts: (-)-pseudoephedrine", Stimulants).
It was around that time that the pfed xtal structure started changing.
This is not some overnight occurance.
They've been incorporating variances all along.
One month after that post, Ibee started noting pfed that had a striking resemblance to the meth xtal structure.
The latest findings are the oily polymer additives that are very deceptive when extracting. They retain a similar pfed xtal structure but they won't dry. Not only that but they are riddled with long bigger spike xtals mixed in.
They can be forced out with multiple solvent combo attacks but the slightest remnants of the oily denaturant going into rxn taint the batch.
Now the way they are including this new stuff is what makes it difficult to deal with.
Side by side identical extractions produce different results in crystal structure in identically timed alky pulls and evapped under the same conditions. All this following a prewash using JD/Tetra combo.
This could lead one to believe that they have incorporated different formulations in the same package.
The main idea for them would be to get the batch tainted any way they can.
Nothing is being ruled out and speculation will always continue but narrowing down areas of concern is key to circumventing what's been employed as denaturant and adulterant additives.
It's not like they have a grave concern for any bee using a product outside the intended scope of it's purpose.
Geez....The Kidz said they can relate to the flatulance issue based on the latest bio. Never once in the history of indugence has this been a recognizable occurance.
Since food is rarely in the picture on most of the Kidz ICEcapades, gas was rare as well.
Ain't it nice to know yer not alone?
The latest on this stuff proves that it just isn't the same.
The foggyness of thought and the lack of euphoria make for an unpleasant ride.
The sexual libido is stimulated but not as intense or longlasting.
The desire to consume more comes between 6-8hrs which really sets this apart from past experiences.
You'll be going right along in that disoriented fog and drop off the edge without warning.
No clear focus at all.
There was an unpleasant experience apart from the general bla`se bioassay during the end of third sleepless day.
Not sure what to think of it as it's never occured in the past.
Could have been from an introduced contamination as it was the very last.
Chills and finger numbing accompanied by throbbing headache.
Lasted about 2 hours and stopped by itself.
Stayed up for another 6 hours tinkering in the fog before the slumberjaks took control.
Upon waking...very lethargic and not at all exhilerated as with past experiences upon the initial awakening.
A few notes on the methanism mechanism employed.
HI/RP LWR that as Murphys Law would have it, was cut short due to all the Little Swimmers in the pool deciding to come outta their shell and take a dip in the vast exspanse of the OilBath.....OOOOOOOOOOOOoooooop!
Luckily, Ibee the Lifeguard, caught it, and knew what to do and acted quickly enough soas their little asses didn't fry too long.
Every indication was already decided that conversion took place and the end result confirmed it so that little mishap, while it may be a factor, isn't hugely significant on the outcome of the experiment overAWE.
Oh...and Dwarfer: You just won an all expenses paid, "7-Nights/0-Daze" vacation to the exotic seeside resort...."Bee-Line Highway", sponsored by "The Village Idiotic Society"! Expect an email notification on this and other exciting Pro-Motions once they figure out how to open the can of spam. Yer box will never be the same if ya got a little dick-around with enlargement concerns! Thanx WizX...
One can never have too many tests!
It's the trials and tribulations we can do without
