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The Hive => Tryptamine Chemistry => Topic started by: sinsemillia on August 24, 2000, 12:27:00 AM

Title: voacanga africana
Post by: sinsemillia on August 24, 2000, 12:27:00 AM
could any one please tell me or point me in the right direction for a crude  active extract of voacanga africana seeds ????
thanx in advance
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: Aminated on August 24, 2000, 12:41:00 AM
Alright, it looks like the alkaloid voacamine is present in the highest concentrations.  According to the Merck, this molecule is soluble in chloroform and acetone and slightly soluble in methanol and ethanol.  An article is archived at Erowid that goes into the phytochemistry in more detail:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/voacanga_africana/voacanga_africana_info1.shtml (http://www.erowid.org/plants/voacanga_africana/voacanga_africana_info1.shtml)



That should be a start.  There are very few reports about the effects of these seeds when used recreationally, so if you perform an extraction and feed them to your lab animals be sure to report your observations.

Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: sinsemillia on August 24, 2000, 05:11:00 AM
prish man and give me a week or so and i will post results
peace
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: psyloxy on August 24, 2000, 07:09:00 PM
I remember that one can convert the Voacanga-alkaloids into ibogaine. It was a relatively easy process, using only KOH and solvents & other standart-shit of course. I tried digging this up again but was unsxsful, does anyone know anything about it ?

--psyloxy--
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: Mr_Smith on August 25, 2000, 09:14:00 AM
If memory serves, the strong alkali (KOH) is used to decarboxylate the vocangine to ibogaine. (Basically, the vocangine is boiled in alkali solution and the ibogaine extracted.)
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: gnrm23 on August 25, 2000, 04:48:00 PM
the main alkaloid in the seeds may be tabersonine...
letcha know if something comes out of a "standard" a/b extraction...
well maybe 1/2 gram of red oil (from ~20 gm seeds) from the organic layer... will attempt to recrytallize from ethanol...
now, what good is tabersonine (other than a precursor for vinpocetine ;) ...)


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Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: sinsemillia on August 28, 2000, 06:46:00 AM
we;; my knoledge is very limited on this subject but there are many reports of africans using this speci as a stimulant/hallucinogin so ill try it and let you know

{if its good enough for them it ought to be good enough for me }
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: CHEM_GUY on August 28, 2000, 06:27:00 PM
This is news to me! 

Where did you guys dig this UP!.  What is the common name for voacanga africana?

Thank you very much.


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Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: psyloxy on August 29, 2000, 04:51:00 PM
It doesn't have a more common name then Voaganga A.

--psyloxy--
Title: Re: voacanga africana
Post by: CHEM_GUY on August 30, 2000, 07:03:00 PM
Thank you for the response.  What are the references?


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