The Hive => Methods Discourse => Topic started by: dorian579 on October 15, 2001, 04:01:00 PM
Title: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: dorian579 on October 15, 2001, 04:01:00 PM
I looked through the Hive, but could not find a process for synthesizing ethanol. Is there such a process that would be possible for the average bee to complete, or is it too costly/complicated for its troubles? Any well-informed bees care to share? Due to the graphic nature of this program, viewer discretion is strongly discouraged.
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: Karl on October 15, 2001, 04:06:00 PM
Sugar + Yeast? ;D
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: sunlight on October 15, 2001, 07:19:00 PM
I guess it would be better buy some aloholic drink, distill the azeothrope (95.5%) and if you want to make anhydrous ethanol there are procedures with CaO or CaCl2, refluxing and distilling the alocohol again, see Rhodium's page.
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: PrimoPyro on October 16, 2001, 02:17:00 AM
It has too been covered here. Search for stills. There have been many a conversation about alcohol production (as well as several extremely detailed writeups) via a still.
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Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: terbium on October 16, 2001, 09:11:00 AM
but could not find a process for synthesizing ethanol. Why would you want to perform a chemical synthesis of alcohol when 40% grain alcohol (vodka) is so easily available?
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: foxy2 on January 15, 2002, 08:01:00 PM
The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel
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Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: ChemicalSolution on January 15, 2002, 09:56:00 PM
If it's abs etOh you need you can distill the grain alcohol to obtain 95% etOh and then re-distill with benzene. The water-benzene-etOH azeotrope distills at 65C and the benzene-etOH azeotrope distills at 68C.
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Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: goiterjoe on January 15, 2002, 11:44:00 PM
Alcohol is one of the cheapest solvents you can use if you make it yourself. Otherwise it costs about 20 times more if you pay the federal taxes on it. If Pacman had influenced us, we'd run around dark rooms eating pills and listen to repetitive music
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: Psi_Locybe on January 24, 2002, 06:13:00 AM
Err... H2SO4 + C2H6? You'll probably want the H2SO4 around 80/20 with water in favor of acid...
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Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: terbium on January 24, 2002, 06:28:00 AM
Err... H2SO4 + C2H6? Well, I agree with the "Err... ?" part. How are you going to make ethanol from sulfuric acid and ethane? And where are you going to get the ethane?
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: Rhodium on January 24, 2002, 07:37:00 AM
Ethane doesn't work, but ethene does. It is given off by ripening bananas... ;)
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: useeusee on February 25, 2002, 05:38:00 PM
why not just use everclear with 5% water
Title: Re: Ethanol (Grain Alcohol)
Post by: humidbeing on February 26, 2002, 09:48:00 AM
Why indeed? I just don't see why you could'nt take MeOh and a/b the Me off replacing it with Et by desire? I've done it. Pretty easy. PM Anonym for details. That's a-n-o-n-y-m. Ask for it by name ;) A Million Heads High. A march on our nations Capital 4/20/- 2003. Bee there or... Bahh bahhh!