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Rhodium

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Purification of formaldehyde
« on: October 31, 2002, 02:13:00 AM »
An old bottle of formaldehyde of unknown concentration, with 1 cm of precipitate at the bottom, can this be distilled or something to get 37% formaldehyde solution?

SPISSHAK

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That sounds like floculation
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2002, 02:16:00 AM »
Or polymerization, heat it and see if it dissolves.
I'm not sure exactly under what conditions formaldehyde floculates but It's a guess.

Rhodium

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It will probably redissolve with heating, but the ...
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2002, 02:21:00 AM »
It will probably redissolve with heating, but the concentration is unknown, I'd like to make sure I have a 37% solution.

The conditions under which my bottle flocculated was by prolonged storage at 5-10°C.

SPISSHAK

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I'm not sure how you would test for concentration
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2002, 02:27:00 AM »
Other than specific gravity, or by seperating the two, I think a certain percentage of methanol is added to formalin solutions to keep it from doing this so it probably is spontaneous.
If you heat it to much you'd either A: distill off the methanol
B: the methanol would condense on the formaldehyde and produce Methylal.
During this process the paraformaldehyde would depolymerize by reaction with water.
Depending on what extent you heat it to.

lugh

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Paraformaldehyde
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2002, 03:01:00 AM »
Paraformaldehyde is formed when formaldehyde solution is evaporated, it's probably what's on the bottom  :)  When paraformaldehyde is heated with a large quantity of water, it's reconverted into formaldehyde  :)

Rhodium

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How can I determine the concentration?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2002, 03:10:00 AM »
How can I determine the concentration? Or perhaps I should rather heat a known weight of paraformaldehyde with water instead?

lugh

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Concentration
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2002, 03:48:00 AM »
The specific gravity of formaldehyde is 1.075-1.1081  :)  You could calculate the percentage of a solution prepared from heating paraformaldehyde in a large quantity of water to that to determine your concentration  :)  The aqueous solution boils at 98°C, the boiling point of the gas is -21°C  :)

b159510

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2002, 03:51:00 AM »
How can I determine the concentration

iodimetric titration, after 5 minutes add hydrochloric acid and back titrate with na-thiosulfate.

or like you said, mix up a new batch, which would probably be easier if you don't have a standardized triiodide solution already made.


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b159510

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trioxymethylene
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2002, 04:27:00 AM »
Paraformaldehyde is formed when formaldehyde solution is evaporated...

I've dissolved paraformaldehyde in water, but never evaporated the solution. Isn't that how trioxymethylene is formed? (aka metaformaldehyde, 1,3,5-trioxane)
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lugh

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Triformol
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2002, 04:49:00 AM »
Yes, as posted in

Post 209590 (missing)

(lugh: "Re: Acquiring Acetaldehyde OTC", Chemicals & Equipment)
 :)  Triformol is the trimer, paraformaldehyde is the hexamer, which melts at 171°C  :)

b159510

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my mistake
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2002, 04:58:00 AM »
The titration I mentioned should still work for an aqueous solution of formaldehyde, even though that isn't the species that actually exists.
(What is that called, methanediol?)
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