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superman

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forgive me if this is redundant, but i've...
« on: August 05, 2004, 04:17:00 PM »
forgive me if this is redundant, but i've looked previously, and now again and can't seem to confirm my suspicion.  when checking the ph of a water/xylene mixture, obviosly the water is on the bottom.   if i remember correctly in high school they said to wet the ph papar and dip it into the np?   this sounds wrong.....

how do i measure the aqueus layer through the np?   do i have to empty it out and check then throw back into my sep. funnel?

thx,     just about to work up my first (hopefully) success!

yei

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pipette?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2004, 05:45:00 PM »
You might use a nice pipette, dip it right through the nonpolar layer, and draw out a sample.

If you are extracting something, you might just wait until you have basified it properly before adding nonpolar.


superman

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SWIM's just about to base my post rxn liquid.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2004, 06:00:00 PM »
SWIM's just about to base my post rxn liquid.   after basing the xylene should contain 1-1.5g meth.   so i suppose then that SWIM would just drain some of the aqueuos layer from the separatory funnel and check it.

thx

biffman

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Just use the stopper.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 10:03:00 PM »
If you are doing an extraction or wash with a separatory funnel, just touch the stopper of the flask right after shaking to the pH paper (or indicator) and it should show you pH.

p2e3r4f5e6c7t8

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hhmmmm
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2004, 03:38:00 PM »
Swip uses a 20ml syringe to get a PH sample beneath the non-polar solvent (meth base) ;)


biotechdude

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measuring pH of aqueous layer
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2004, 02:51:00 AM »
A syringe works well.  Use thin plastic extender tubing and/or glass capillary tubes to reach the aqueous layer.  If working with larger volumes, just tap off a small volume, measure, then pour back in.  Its all about relative mechanical loss... 

TIP - when lowering the syringe through the NP towards the aqueous, it will 'swallow' some NP up the tip.  To overcome this, draw up the syringe a little before lowering so that when it is in the aqueous, you can squeeze the syringe to clear it.  Then suck up the aqueous.