Author Topic: Preparing for first dream--lots of questions...  (Read 4454 times)

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geezmeister

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watch out!
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2004, 06:54:00 PM »
If your pseudo is from the generic 120's, you should expect it to contain orange II type gakk. You have freebase crystals from a tetra trap type extraction, and IMHO that will not give really clean pseudo. Your freebase crystals are likely heavy with PEG and orange II.

I have found that japan drier works as advertised in the extraction process to break down the OII gakk. The PEG can be attacked and removed from the crystals by the addition to the crystals of a little hot water...don't use too much. The crystals will reform and float, and should be filtered off and rinsed with a little cool water.

I might suggest that you dissolve the freebase crystals in tolly or xylene, wash that with a ten percent NaOH solution  three times, then wash with water. If you get a grey emulsion in the water washes, be glad you did this step.

I do not take issue with any of the advice you have recieved. I might drop the water from 1:1 with the pseudo to 1:0.8; I would recommend  a balloon, as the inital formation of HI gas outstrips the condenser's ability to condense all of it, icewater or not, at first. While I like cold water in the condensor at the start of a reaction, I do not use, nor have a seen a need to use, ice or ice cold water for the entire reaction. I change the water with fresh cool water if it gets warm.

For the size reaction you contemplate, I would recommend a smaller flask, a 250 would be fine, and recommend using a round bottom flask. I use an oil bath (actually a cool-to-the-touch deep fat fryer with a modified lid I can mount the flask to-- this keeps the heat in the cooker and the smell to a minimum, and provides a window to view the reaction. (I have done many of these reactions on a simple hotplate in a flat bottom flask, and have had good success with these also.)

I do not recall the temperature you intend to use. I recommend a temperature just below 100C.


kidclean

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Final result!
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2004, 07:04:00 AM »
Well bees,

The time has come and gone.  The final results (drum role, please):

From 25.92g of psuedo, SWIC has 16.52g of super-kick-ass, good-as-it-gets meth (after two recrystalizations)!  SWIC is happy as can bee!  If he did his math correctly, this represents a just-under 70% yield.  Don't think that's too shaby for a second synth (and a first time non-nano synth).

SWIC couldn't have done it without *all* you kind bees and your helpful suggestions and answers to his newbee (and sometimes naive) questions.  SWIC wishes to thank all of you!  There are too many of you to mention by name, but SWIC will make one exception--Geez.

Geez, your answers were always right on the money and SWIC doesn't think he would have succeeded without your advice.  You *da man* in SWIC's book, bro!

Now, off to go get some KOH ;-)

Adios everyone,

--KidClean.