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The Hive => Stimulants => Topic started by: superman on April 16, 2004, 07:48:00 AM

Title: HI w/o phos. any help for an anxious bee
Post by: superman on April 16, 2004, 07:48:00 AM
Title: deserving reply
Post by: biotechdude on April 16, 2004, 05:24:00 PM
U need a P-source; either rp, P-acid, or HypoP.  Thats the easy part.

HI-only reactions suck.

Looks like you'll b waitin for Postman Pat...
Title: Well....
Post by: ning on April 16, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
If you are so impatient, you could always offer up your precursor on the altar of wisdom--sacrifice for the greater good of the hive, by testing out some of the ideas in

Post 497130 (missing)

(elfspice: "substitute HCOOH for P(red)", Stimulants)
, with formic or oxalic acid.

Don't expect much, but I'm sure it would bee most appreciated.

Title: thanks fo the replies.
Post by: superman on April 18, 2004, 08:49:00 AM
thanks fo the replies.   maybe i will contribute to the other thread if it's within my capabilities :)
Title: just how bad do HI only reactions work?
Post by: superman on April 18, 2004, 08:52:00 AM
Title: badly
Post by: biotechdude on April 18, 2004, 04:49:00 PM
they suck bad.  No need to experiment; its already been done and conclusions been made.  The HI decomposes and releases free iodine (a thick black sludge) and the HI concentration drops too quickly so that it never can reduce the pseudo anyway.  Thats not to say that they cant be done; but its a WHOLE lot easier to use a P-source...

You have all the right equipment etc.  You are poised for success.  Dont fuck it now by not using a P-source.