Author Topic: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas  (Read 5098 times)

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Rhodium

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2002, 11:10:00 PM »
I have it. It will be placed on my page shortly in the document.

dwarfer

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2002, 03:15:00 AM »
I appreciatetheinformation on saturated IPA.

However, I will contend as I have before
much to the bemusement of some,
that bubbling air thru HCL,
and thence thru a drier,
and then to the reaction vessell,
is in fact the easiest, most foolproof,
and expeditious method for many.

advantages:
1.  on/off readily.
2.  little or no chemical hazard.
3.  relatively inexhaustible.
4.  cheap

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disadvantage
1.  slow, compared to the more concentrated gas
achieved by some above methods.

this can be ameliorated by:
a:  Warming the container.
     1.  THIS can be done easily
by placing in a crock-pot cooker..

     2.  Because the system takes ZERO attention,
the 10 minutes to 1/2 hour it takes(for the process)
is not excessive. (IMHO)

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A $6 aquarium pump,
two 2 hole stoppers, 
and some tubing...

I am appreciative of the work it took
to make the comparison,
and the presentation style
is one I should emulate.

I would invite you actually trying this
and commenting,
because most who take a dump on it
have not tried it:

whereas I have tried two of the above
and consider this technique superior.

Until you experience

"stick in the tube
and flip the switch"
processing,
you'll not appreciate it..
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PS:the drier which I currently use,
epsoms in a Snapple bottle,
is overlain by some
indicating material which
advises when water vapor is
getting to it.

The epsoms is
rapidly and thoroughly dried
in the microwave.

Thank you.

 





dwarfinger...

foxy2

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2002, 05:37:00 AM »
" 10 minutes to 1/2 hour it takes(for the process) "

Holy shit
I would bee asleep by then.  Or I would bee off on some other project and forget about the gassing until like 4 hours later.

Thats just way to damn SLOW!!!

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goiterjoe

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2002, 09:54:00 AM »
it's also extremely inefficient, considering you waste a lot of drying agent and muriatic acid for the amount of gas produced.  There's nothing that complicated about gassing with sulfuric and salt; why bother with anything else? 

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dwarfer

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2002, 02:04:00 AM »
Slow I copped to: Generally 10 minutes is not thatprecious to me..

As for my friend GJ?
Yeah, that epsons is damned expensive.

And the waste of muriatic?  No question: for the HCl you produce, you leave behind all that water,.  Or istheir something else in muriatic besides hydrogen chloride and water?

??  the world waits for revelation..??  ;D

dwarfinger...

Rhodium

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2002, 06:51:00 AM »
This document now available at

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/hclgas.argox.html

with apparatus diagram.

PoohBear4Ever

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2002, 05:18:00 PM »
Yet another sweet document,

8)

PB

MrGlasscock2U

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2002, 11:09:00 PM »
seems swim must break his mute silence, his vote is for dwarfers rig, as modified by the muses, i.e. - rock salt, muriatic, an occasional drop or two of sulfuric and an occasional bit of foil, penetrated via a bubbler, then a dryer, then the solvent with product, then a scrubber, (uh , a bubbler through charcoal and soda water, container covered carefully with soda water towels.) all propelled by a small aq pump...no smell, no muss, no fuss...

turn it on and get your vac filters ready, you might have time to smoke a cigarette...if you have lots of solvent etcetera

farmer style gassing is for the birch crowd, more power to all who share their improvements, method described above is ridiculously simple, easy, and clean, disposal of acid mix only nuisance about it. ;)

halfapint

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Re: Best Method for Hydrochloric Acid Gas
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2002, 04:35:00 AM »
Argox is right. His way is best.

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