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The Hive => Chemicals & Equipment => Topic started by: timsong on October 30, 2001, 02:00:00 AM

Title: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: timsong on October 30, 2001, 02:00:00 AM
Ammonia :-
Sulphate of Ammonia (Garden Fertilizer)+ Caustic Soda (Chemist that has big shoes/hardware store)

Lithium :-
Thin gray strip in AA lithium batteries (see rhodium's site)

Ephedrine :-
s-fed freebased with caustic soda

Toluene :- Available in celloluse thinners mixed or not mixed with methanol (easy to boil off or separate with water)(read label)

Calcium chloride:-(For removing last traces of h20)
Damp absorbing paks/bags from hardware store (check label for CACl)

Coolent/freezer:-

Electronic freezer spray, dry ice from mail order fish company or stage effects supplier (just do a search for dry ice on an uk engine)


See Birch Reduction for recipe

All is possible with no attention drawn,it's just the stink that makes them scorn.
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: foxy2 on October 30, 2001, 02:19:00 AM
No attention if you tell them you have a cat farm and they really like to piss everywhere.

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Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: wandering101 on October 30, 2001, 06:32:00 AM
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Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: IudexK2 on October 31, 2001, 12:56:00 AM

mail order fish company




lolol

Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: foxy2 on October 31, 2001, 01:20:00 AM
Just open your own mail order fish company.
You'll have all the dry ice you could ever need and a perfect excuse for the SMELL.

;D

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Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: wandering101 on October 31, 2001, 06:58:00 AM
Hey, what's going on here? My post disappeared, and IudexK2's reply to foxy appears ABOVE her post?
WTF?
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: Rhodium on October 31, 2001, 11:39:00 PM
I think it has something to do with the server overload. Some posts may have been placed in the wrong SQL database slot.
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: IudexK2 on November 01, 2001, 01:00:00 AM
No, my reply was to timsong - its just your post that's disappeared.
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: akata on November 01, 2001, 04:55:00 PM
Yeh, right - useless unless you live on a fucking farm, although I hear u.k farms are alot cheaper than they used to be

The big cheeses have got the red names
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: timsong on November 02, 2001, 04:35:00 PM
Mail order fish supplier ???

Answere :- They pack the fish with dry ice when they send it to you.
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: timsong on November 02, 2001, 05:04:00 PM
Well, this thread really can't go any further.

I just posted it to illustrate that all the chemicals are easily available in the UK. And of course Scientific companies in the UK have no problems with selling labware to private individuals (they just wont sell you chemicals).

I believe that the birch method will soon become the most viable method of producing meth in the UK as red phosphorus is impossible to buy here unless you are a business with a legitimate use.

It has been suggested that the ammonia gas expelled from the reaction can be neutralised by leading it into a container of acid. Sounds good but you will probably need quite a bit of acid (more ããã). Probably leading it into a sink with running water would be a cheaper idear as the ammoina gas would be constantly dissolving in the water and going down the drain in a dilute form.

Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: akata on November 03, 2001, 03:04:00 AM
I think you may find the meth situation in the u.k is not very large if there is one at all. I don't know anyone here who sells it or whatever. All I ever get offered is amph sulph with varying amounts of glucose

The big cheeses have got the red names
Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: The_Animal on November 03, 2001, 06:10:00 PM
So this big steaming/smoking box of frozen fish gets dropped off by the postie? :P

The all new fangled

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Title: Re: UK Birch Chemicals
Post by: UKBEE on February 04, 2002, 11:49:00 PM
timsong.... what ?  General UK chem houses won't sell to the public...(SWIM hasn't Tried yet) but I didn't think it would be a problem.

Fair enought Schedule 1 Chems (a definate no no for end users)

But the rest....sureley they would sell to a end user (money is money after all) what happens if you are into chemistry/Photography/Metal working etc as a hobby ?






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