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placebo:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. KOH solution...i.e. KOH dissolved in water, when evapped does not give you KOH. KOH upon evap reacts with the air to make something else, I can't remember what that is but it is not the same. In the case of isomerizing safrole, it is bad, fucks everything and even eats glass. This might not hurt you with pills but be aware of it. KOH RAW is too easy to get to be fucking with solution shit. Bee warned.
Use the KOH solution as is if a bit of water isn't a problem, don't evap it.

tina_craig:
Switc evapped KOH/Bleach drain cleaner and was left with white flakes, took these and baked in the oven for about 20 minutes.  Boiled down 48 60's with 2 inactives listed.  No layers formed.  Evapped alky to give the FB pseudo and reacted this to give excellent gear (1st FB rxn posted in Stimulants).  So, if the drain cleaner doesn't evap to give KOH then what the hell did switc boil switc's pills with and how the hell was clean gear the product?  All of the supposed KOH flakes would not dissolve either and used the recommended amount of 10 grams for every 2.88 grams.  When rxn solution was basified only changed to milky white, no off colors present.  Very confused.

Drug_Phreak:
This method was tried on name brand pills with 4mg of Chlorpheniramine maleate and 60mg of Pseudoephedrine HCl per pill. With the following inactives: lactose, magnesium stearate, potato starch, and povidone. Upon adding KOH to the IPA no color change was noticed. The solution was clear for about 5 minutes... then it turned a murky yellowish... then a dark brown. As the solution turned brown a dark red precipitate came out of solution (it looked like RP). The last bits of KOH that where about to dissolve also turned this dark red color. The solution was allowed to boil for 20 minutes and no layers formed. The red precipitate was filtered out and the solution was allowed to cool and let sit for a few hours to see if any layers would form... no layers formed. This dark brown solution was evaporated on very low heat and there was a brownish crystalline mass at the bottom that looked like it had a gravy mother over it. Some dH20 was added to the beaker and put into a sep funnel and then some Toluene was added to the beaker and that was placed into the sep funnel. Most of the brown solid stayed in the aqueous phase. The Toluene was washed two times with dH20. The Toluene was then dried and gassed. DrugPhreak expected no crystals to form, but white crystals did in fact form. DrugPhreak doesn't know what these crystals are though cause they sure ain’t P-Fed.  ::)  :(  They are not bitter at all... not acidic either. They had a slightly salty taste. Potassium Chloride maybe or something?!??! O_o  ::)  :(  >:(  :o  

DrugPhreak put the rest of their feed thru the Straight to E procedure and it appears that very nice P-Fed was obtained from these pills that way. DrugPhreak used some of their post Straight to E feed with this KOH/IPA procedure just to see if that red precipitate would form... it didn't and the solution stayed clear. DrugPhreak didn't go thru the whole process again cause they where getting sleepy as fuck and felt extremely exhausted... not to mention braking their 1000ml sep funnel.  :(  >:(  DrugPhreak was amazed that the solution stayed clear though. Other tests where preformed on this feed obtained with Straight to E and they all went well (e.g. burn test) etc.           

DrugPhreak is truly sick and tired of the gakk and this will be their last time obtaining feed from pills. I think it's really about time we all use the easily obtainable Ma-Huang to get our feed. These pills are seriously overpriced and we don't need their damn pills! We shouldn't have to jump thru loops to get high and we don't have too! Let them keep their infestations to themselves. I will devote as much time and energy that is needed to prefect a Ma-Huang extraction that is easy, OTC, and high yielding. I'm in the process of obtaining and translating the follow patents. If any Bees can help me obtain these patents or can translate them I would appreciate it very much. They are:


Patent CN1132740

Patent CN1443749

Patent IN185200

Patent CN1364756

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