41
News / Happy Chemist's day
« Last post by java on December 01, 2023, 04:36:25 PM »
News:
Registration doesn't require a real email.
Monero Donation Address: 897ESh4QoJgEytJueBPULziMDfNMToXkGMrvtUCJRo2NQRv2CXACHnmEzeMTkwQhnfcZsAc3ctXp6GsedhMfBv983rn5i84
Recent Posts
42
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by Mrbovinejony on November 24, 2023, 01:46:23 AM »I actually threw out 20 something grams of red phosphorous the other day, not enough to make any meaningful amount of anything. And still have a buttload of nabh4 from china
43
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by DerAlteSack on November 23, 2023, 01:19:37 PM »Titanium isopropxide, libh4, borane in thf or any borane complex really, red-al, sodium on silica, all variations of mercury amalgam. Not sure I understand the fuss about nabh4 being watched, the time spent figuring out how to get or make nabh4 could be better spent figuring out how to reduce without it
NaBH4 is generations Z red phosphorus.
44
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by big mac on November 19, 2023, 12:53:37 PM »Not sure I understand the fuss about nabh4 being watched, the time spent figuring out how to get or make nabh4 could be better spent figuring out how to reduce without it
There was this chinese patent, the NaBH4 was made from Mg metal and some borax sodium carbonate, water in a ball mill: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=158235
One would have to make a tightly sealed ball mill, that could bee filled with argon though and afterwards wind a way to recrystallise the NaBH4 without hydrolysis. Quite a bit of a hassle and specialised equipment.
45
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by Mrbovinejony on November 19, 2023, 10:56:40 AM »Titanium isopropxide, libh4, borane in thf or any borane complex really, red-al, sodium on silica, all variations of mercury amalgam. Not sure I understand the fuss about nabh4 being watched, the time spent figuring out how to get or make nabh4 could be better spent figuring out how to reduce without it
46
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by Light4daze on November 19, 2023, 08:38:38 AM »So if sodium borohydride, sodium cyanoborohydride, and sodium triacetoxyborohydride All become to difficult to obtain, what then would you all agree would be a good alternative reducing agent. Besides LAH of course? Any thoughts? Opinions? 
47
Harm Reduction Resources / Re: The Drug Users Bible: Download It Free Of Charge Here
« Last post by DMTrott on October 02, 2023, 06:46:47 PM »Interesting choice of RoA there Newton, as the norm back in the day was indeed oral. Coincidentally, it's one which is imprinted in my mind too because I made such a mess of it.
The common dose was reputed to be about 12mg. I went for a lowly 10mg due to domestic issues at the time. Unfortunately I misread the scale and took 100mg.
I instantly spotted my error and spent the next half-hour scared witless, trying to vomit. I just couldn’t. Luckily nothing happened and I was okay. Unluckily, the ride itself was a little lack-lustre.
Like you I got away with it, but took the lesson. Glad you are okay. :-)
The common dose was reputed to be about 12mg. I went for a lowly 10mg due to domestic issues at the time. Unfortunately I misread the scale and took 100mg.
I instantly spotted my error and spent the next half-hour scared witless, trying to vomit. I just couldn’t. Luckily nothing happened and I was okay. Unluckily, the ride itself was a little lack-lustre.
Like you I got away with it, but took the lesson. Glad you are okay. :-)
48
News / Anonfiles
« Last post by crimson_king on September 21, 2023, 07:55:17 PM »RIP anonfiles. Was kind of shitty anyways 
If you have any files that have been uploaded here through that service it may be worth re-uploading them through something else.
hxxps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/file-sharing-site-anonfiles-shuts-down-due-to-overwhelming-abuse/
If you have any files that have been uploaded here through that service it may be worth re-uploading them through something else.
hxxps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/file-sharing-site-anonfiles-shuts-down-due-to-overwhelming-abuse/
49
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by Loki on September 16, 2023, 07:15:48 PM »thioglycolic acid and its esters eg. Methyl thioglycolate
Does anyone have any info regarding how thioglycolid esters are used in clandestine labs? I've never heard of their use before. Some brief research tells me they are used as reducing agents -given their inexpensive and accessibility, it seems to me it would be an attractive substance to use (despite its smell).
It's used in methamphetamine resolution with AIBN.
https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/eu-drug-markets/methamphetamine/main-production-methods-europe_en
50
News / Re: DEA To Update Watched Chemicals List To Include Sodium Borohydride
« Last post by Dexterduck on September 15, 2023, 08:01:26 PM »thioglycolic acid and its esters eg. Methyl thioglycolate
Does anyone have any info regarding how thioglycolid esters are used in clandestine labs? I've never heard of their use before. Some brief research tells me they are used as reducing agents -given their inexpensive and accessibility, it seems to me it would be an attractive substance to use (despite its smell).
Does anyone have any info regarding how thioglycolid esters are used in clandestine labs? I've never heard of their use before. Some brief research tells me they are used as reducing agents -given their inexpensive and accessibility, it seems to me it would be an attractive substance to use (despite its smell).