Post 399065 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=7740.msg39906500#msg39906500)
(Worlock: "Super High Potentcy Push/Pull dope", Stimulants)Post 534545 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8648.msg53454500#msg53454500)
(geezmeister: "on ratios and envelopes", Stimulants)