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(ragnaroekk: "Reference on HI reductions", Stimulants)Once a steady bubbling begins, look for white crystals (HI) in the tubing or in the glass tubing connector in the stopper. If a fog is forming in the vessel, try to keep it going for a few minuets.
White smoke should have been noticed faintly flowing into the flask. Large amounts of 'snow' should be pressent on the glass walls. Add a few mls of dH2O down the tubing or reflux condencer to wash the 'snow' down. Return to the heat source. After 20 - 30 min of the smoke flowing into the reaction vessel, disconnect the tubing at the opposite end of the flask and add a few more ml (1 to 2 ml MAX) of dH2O to assist in washing down the new 'snow'. Work the water down into the flask. You should start seeing more white smoke flowing into the vessel. Apply heat until the fog flow rate into the flask is clearly obvious and fairly constant.
Heres the link:
https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/hypotale.html (https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/hypotale.html)
Fill me in on why this is the new hot topic of conversation??
I am not trying to be a smartass here Fester, but since you asked.......
It is a topic of conversation because that's what goes on here, conversation about currently used methods/chems/pills/etc etc.
Furthermore;
When I tried the method a few times back in the early 90's,
Presicely! It is March 2004 and all that this date represents to a bee persuing the hypo cook. I must have 100 of these rxns under my belt and I will still read anything written about it because I dare say my work could benefit from some improvement here and there. hehehe.
Somm offers what, one version of a hypo reduction? I cant remember but regardless, until your book covers the large number of rxns and variations that have been covered here collectively, it is illogical to assume that everyone here will be best served by following your one example of this rxn written in '92.
I got smoke in the round bottom flask, but none in the condenser.
good for you!
Over time I've had smoke as well, along with fire, crystal formation that ignited on contact with air or water, crystal formation that did not self ignite, and yet another type that waited until it met something basic before going off.
I've used hypo so concentrated it was probably a breath of air short of being a solid, and I've used home made stuff at unknown concentration, paying close attention to filtering out any salts, and I've used it two minutes after filtering it just the once after having made it and said fuck salt that'll do! I've had it run 4 hours and be done one day, and 12 hours to reduce the same amount another day and blah blah blah, and that's just me! I'm only one of many with opinions and preferences based on personal experience.
In my estimation, until you too have covered all available aspects of varying this rxn in 2004, how the hell can you comment on what is relevant and what is not?
What about those that now need to manufacture their own acid? what about acid concentrations? importance of reduced pressure distillation for complete removal of salts produced during the manufacture? How about at what stage the acid being concentrated will ignite and cause the unsuspecting bee much grief? And how about if your method in SOMM, and shorty's method here just plain don't suit certain people and the particulr set of circumstances under which they have to do their stuff?
Actually you of all people know damn well the benefit of hive discussion, I'm surprised you asked the question at all, but mostly I'm surprised that I wrote this post.
Hi everybody while I'm here!