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JKZzz

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best crystalization method?
« on: May 12, 2003, 03:56:00 AM »
This is a simple question but I haven't been able to find any direct answers to this question so here goes:
Which is the better method of crystalization: boiling off excess slovent or pouring the mix into cold/chilled solvent? Which would result in the most pure product?

I've seen both used for cryst' 2,5-dimethoxynitrostyrene from IPA, but nothing about why one or the other or which is better.

thanks in advance to any replies! :)

SPISSHAK

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In principle
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2003, 06:11:00 AM »
you can do single or multisolvent recrystallization.
In the single sovent recryst. you dissolve in hot solvent to achieve a supersaturated solution then chill to crystallize.
This belongs in the newbee forum.

bones

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theres probably a post on this somewhere...
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2003, 09:40:00 AM »
theres probably a post on this somewhere... but... imho the best method for recrystalization is to take up your product in a minimum amount of boiling solvent... whatever solvent that may be... use stiring or whatever to ensure that everything is disolved.. then just sit your flask on a bench somewhere and leave it for a while... overnight if you can be bothered... this works on the principle that solvents can disolve more when they're hot... so a good choice of solvent wouldnt disolve much at rt.... if you get bored..stick it in an ice bath... that will speed things up... but the slower you let the crystals for the bigger they'll be .. i like large crystals... just think they look cooler :D .... you can evaporate the filtrate off and recrystalize the stuff left over.. but it wont be as pure :(

psygn

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decomposition
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2003, 10:58:00 PM »
In SWIP's experience, nitrostyrenes decompose quite quickly at elevated temperatures, and rextallisation from a boiling solvent seems to give an impure product.

JKZzz

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Thanks for the input
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2003, 02:52:00 AM »
Sorry bout putting this in the wrong forum, guess it is pretty basic. 
Based on what psygn (thanks to u ;) ) it seems like boiling off solvent isn't such a good idea. I'll recryst using the chilln.
any other suggestions? any pointers on 2C-B synth or things I should be careful about?
thanks and peace

carboxyl

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Boiling away your solvent isn't really a great
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2003, 07:26:00 AM »
Boiling away your solvent isn't really a great method for recrystallization, especially when it is possible to risk decomposition, boiling over, etc. Zubrick's Organic Survial Manual is mandatory reading as is the MaDMAx sticky in the newbee forum which should help you on your quest for suitable answer.