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The Hive => Chemicals & Equipment => Topic started by: bbob on August 10, 2004, 10:11:00 PM

Title: safest purchase for NH3 generation
Post by: bbob on August 10, 2004, 10:11:00 PM
Wondering what would be least likeley to draw unwanted attention if one were buying at a chem supply place instead of fertilizer from a home/garden place?

thanks

Title: Best Bet
Post by: Rasputin on August 10, 2004, 10:35:00 PM
For the amounts you would need to generate amonia, you would save a fortune buying it at a garden store. Just get amonium sulfate, you can get 5 pounds for about 5 dollars, with no questions asked. At a chem supply there is always a possibility of having to answer questions(no fun!). Even though amonia chloride and amonia sulfate are insanely common chems, dont put yourself through the hassle. This is just something thats just easier if its done OTC.

Title: swix also read that u can use ammonium nitrate
Post by: xtc4fun on August 10, 2004, 11:54:00 PM
swix also read that u can use ammonium nitrate and that can really be easily found in those instant cold packs...
Title: Yes you could, but how to do it without ...
Post by: ApprenticeCook on August 11, 2004, 09:19:00 AM
Yes you could, but how to do it without breaking the ampule of the ammonium nitrate? and also there is only a small amount of it in each pack....

The packs are also end up very expensive if you want a serious amount of ammonia as im gathering this person wants....

-AC

Title: went with the sulfate fertilizer
Post by: bbob on August 11, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
I believe he opted for avoiding the possibility of unfortunate questions, as suggested.

I'm sure he appreciated the advice.

Title: just so people know there are different types...
Post by: xtc4fun on August 11, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
just so people know there are different types of ice packs the ones i was refuring to has ammonium nitrate in the pack and water in the amplue so its easy to seperate. just cut it open and dump the ammonium nitrate pellets in a jar and throw the water ampule away...
Title: Why bother making it
Post by: p2e3r4f5e6c7t8 on August 11, 2004, 05:48:00 PM
Helloo bbob, How are ya mate, Just a question mate, Why bother making Nh3, Swip has tried Mr_Clean's ammonia generator a few time's aswell as a few other methods described on this site & rhodium's and it is very fucking smelly, And the amount you get for the time you put in isent realy worth it unless only a little bit of Nh3 is needed, Not to mention it's a bitch to get it toatly anhydrous, But it is good practice because it teaches you how coutious you have to be with it.
Swip would sugest a chemical suit and a breathing mask when ever you expose your self to ammonia. ;)

Title: different ideas
Post by: bbob on August 11, 2004, 07:50:00 PM
Howdy,  it seems to me there's a couple different schools of thought regarding the feasibility of making it yourself, and the relatively warm reception afforded a couple of the "easy, cheap, and safe" methods rolled out lately is enough to make a person consider giving it a try.