The Hive > Stimulants
Ker Plunking for quality and quantity
Worlock:
I
n reply to: Dunno if you're still using this acct.
but I have question regarding an emulsion the size of texas, this thingg took up
the whole polar....Get back to me::
positron@scientist.com
-mnm
Yep
Still use this
Just finished a big project on this related to a bees report that the methanol was causing oxidation in his product, and it led into emulsions and the caused a big stir among many of people.
I'll assume you are speaking about meth emulsions because the
-OH on the E molecule makes it more water soluble than
Meth it tends to have a different look and other problems. And this method isprimarily a post rteaction technique.
Actually, both molecules are mostly made up of hydrocarbons which would be non-polar. but because of the nitrogen =NH they are capable of hydrogen bonding a very strong, ionic bond with water, mediated mostly by the activity of Chlorine, or sulfate,or whatever anion is being used.
The point is is that in addition to pH, the concentration of the anions is extremely important as to how water or oil soluble these amines will be.
The emulsions are usually a mixture of waxes,water, fuel and damaged ephedrine and meth molecules often wrapped around an air bubble.
This is why many bees say there is nothing of value in an emulsion , yet others of us feel that there is something there, only it has a problem.
If the E or M molecule has been under the influence of an
oxidizing environment, such as hot methanol, ethanol, water , peroxide and other
things(we know it has) then there is a tendency to break apart the ring structure or form an alcohol on the carbon ends of the molecule.
or form a polymrer bridge between two nitrogens, or any of the dozens of potential break points can join to another molecule and form and an oxide side chain or link together chains of damaged molecules
In addition to making the molecule more polar, and generally making it useless for our purposes, the formation of the polymere of an oxygen bridging together to two molecules at
the nitrogen or almost any free end. Whatever the case the molecules attract ions that make them more water soluble , producing a low yield and a larger emulsion.
This is even more evil because not only are these oxides
carcinogenic, but they stink, and blacken your pipe , and I suspect some actually counter act the effect of meth, and can make you sleepy, I am almost certain of this.
AS I have eheard of peoplem taking some Meth and then yawning and becoming tired.
Preventative measures then are the reduction of high temperatures when
evaporating solvents, by using the hair dryer to suppliment heat from below, and
simply taking more time to let the stuff evaporate.
Peroxide is a mixed
package, it may increase oxidation but it will also dissolve some of those
oxygen briges that are making your meth into what many would desribe as a simple
form of plastic. hehehehe
Primary to correcting this if it has already
occurred is known as
ker plunking - I'll explain the name later.
Take the reaction mixture once complete, filter out the phos.
Add a large amount of naptha or toluine to the water based acidic
reaction mixture. By a large amount, I mean a lot, at least as much fuel as there
is water then add 20% additional fuel above the 100% you just added.
It is a game of concentratrations of ions and chems and your in it to WIN.
Add a reasonable amount of NaOH not enough to make the freebase but close to it say a about pH 10 of the water solution.
Bring the whole thing slowly up to a boil, add in a few
pieces of activated charcoal or small pieces of broken glass, this causes a much more even boil and is to prevent the bumping of big gas bubble forming.
This big gas bubble was how the technique became known as
ker-plunking , but it is best to avoid that ker plunk because it could blow out the flask
When you have a nice steady easy
generation of gas bubbles rising from the water moving up to the fuel layer (this is best with naphtha) then you will begin repairing some of the damaged molecules of meth they rise in the bubble and hit the hot naptha , this often
will free the molecule of the ion that is causing the breach in the ring or whatever and absorbs the meth it into the hydrocarbon fuel layer, where it is bathed in exactly what it needs, hydrogens and carbons without heavy ionic pull. tHE METH SOON GOES BACK INTO THE WATER SOLUTION, THAT IS WHY YOU NEED A LOT OF FUEL SO THE METH MOLECULE will spend enough time traviling throught the naptha to get fixed, naptha is a mixture of hydrocarbons, that mixture works best.
Ever so carefully add a few drops of peroxide now and theN
KEEP ADDING NAoh TO RAISE THe pH , this takes time (up to an hour).
You can see the crap coming off the speed, sometimes , often it is an iodide atom attached or a chlorine, or some wax or
just two or more meth molecules stuck together that break free of each other.
AS you might expect the final product from this , will be much cleaner and a damn good buzz. Needless to say caution is important , eye protection is a must and
precautions to prevent fire are extremely important
Continue adding a liitle peroxide and some NaOH, until you reach the point where the lower water layer turns a milky white,
that is the meth finally becoming a freebase.
Stop
let it cool , a little bit
swirl in some more NaOH tO BE SURE YOU HAVE HIt A pH over 12.5, let is sit and separate,
You should end up with a mirrored interface surface, emulsion free , and as a
bonus for doing this time consuming, hot and potentially dangerous proceedure
will be a great yield of some of the highest quality dope imaginable.
By
using this method, and /or recrystalization and/or steam distillation , the
quality of the product goes right through the roof.
THis is what some of the old timers swear by, but they are rarely sure why they do things, they just do 'em, cause that is how they learned
Worlockium
www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/4986/two/start.html
Pyros:
Yes indeed, that pristine mirror is the stuff that dreams are made out of. And the 'dope' produced following the advice of The Great One (Worlock) is indeed the best to be had anywhere.
PVnRT_NC8:
Arrg I musta kinda screwup here umm but still [produced great dividends maybe evn less recovered...um nedd to figure out why that stuff balls up like a coloid, furthermore this reaction lacked the luster of the last........allthough it could be detected after a tone wssh and finally wasses kinda clean after a few hot washes w/ tone and meoh this meoh seems to pull the suggar off or something anys I now go by flavor....the aci salt seem to become pyrolysed and then become freebase??? due to ashes.
um so what I wana do is get repeat instead of cake i wana little balls to rool up so there is needed a great paln of conquest.
A010
PVnRT_NC8:
Kerplunking works:)
also used cacl then basified from meoh/yone into napatha
ummm well there was a bit less recovered the rea; interesting thing when going backwards is that it can snow in that np lkayer that is pretty cool.. :P
A010
SuNNySide:
Could this be dun on product that has alredy been finished?
To improve it. What would the prosses be ? just wana stop
yawning!!!!!!!
Put that in you'r pipe and smoke it. whats that noise?
sshhhhhhh!
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
Go to full version