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Chromic

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Phalaris identification
« on: September 15, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »
Just for curiousity's sake, I was interested in how to identify Phalaris grass. I've got some pieces of grass, with leaves 15cm long, 1cm wide, slightly hairy on the top leaves, smooth on the bottom, the leaves come every ~5cm alternating sides. The fibres running along leaf are easy to see. The stem part between the leaves is smooth. The more immature seeds are hairy, and they seem to lose their hairs as they mature. The leaves and seeds look almost look purplish at times. The seeds part is about 5-7cm long.

Is this Phalaris? What are the key features that one uses to identify the grass?

foxy2

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »
Erowid or lycaeum must have pics

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Chromic

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2001, 04:06:00 PM »

http://www.erowid.org/plants/phalaris/phalaris.shtml



However, the pics don't explain what are the key identification features so I avoid picking a similar strain of grass.

Chromic

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2001, 08:11:00 PM »
Also, does anyone have a good seed source in Canada for Phalaris grass with a high alkaloid content? It seems the easiest to grow out of all natural DMT sources.

halfapint

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2001, 03:22:00 AM »
In my web wanderings, I read some British cat explain that the distinguishing characteristic of phalaris grass was the little collar (forgot the real name) where the grass blade starts to shoot out of the stem. This part is normally hidden, having a sheath of green stuff wrapped around it, holding the blade to the stem. But when you pluck it out, you can see vertical striations, like pinstripes, on phalaris grass. It's very tiny, evidently only about 1/8 inch high, so it needs very close inspection. Now this isn't from personal experience, this is only my memory of what somebody else said, but there's a possibility it might help you. It was what I was keeping in mind, in case I found a phalaris grass candidate; hope it's accurate.

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Chromic

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2001, 09:20:00 AM »
Pinstripes? I'm not really familar with the word, do they look like little hairs about 1/8" in length around the "collar" (where the blade meets the stem)? If so, then the grass I've been looking at has that, and I take it is Phalaris.

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meme

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2001, 01:49:00 PM »
I have some good sources, but Phalaris is very unpredictable, the alkaloid levels fluctuate greatly.  And they contain 5meo, p. arundacinea is the most nndmt/5meo ratio.

Mimosa hostilis is generally considered to be the "purest" dmt.

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Chromic

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2001, 09:34:00 AM »
Meme, yeah, that's why I decided to order seed instead. I hope that places that specialise in this sort of thing also carry high-alkaloid grasses. I've read that aquatica is generally more powerful than arundinacea? Is this true?

Also, can you give me a laymans definition of a spikelet?

meme

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
God, I love that "new window" butten.

P aquatica is tronger, but has more 5meodmt, which is active at such a lower dose than nndmt, that it overpowers it.  If you want 5meo, than the aquatica is the way to go.

Arundacineae is higher is nndmt, but the Phalaris sp. are quite capricous.

I have no idea what a spikelet is?  Can you point me towards the ref.?

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Chromic

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Re: Phalaris identification
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2001, 01:40:00 PM »
I think what I had was Timothy grass. I think a spikelet is the little piece that connects the seed husk, holding the seed, to the stem. I purchased aquatica, let's hope 5-meo-dmt is decent. :)

meme

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5meo
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2001, 09:47:00 AM »
I've heard that it has a strong push with the yage-brews, but shulgin seems to respect it more than dmt, as far as entheogenic capabilities.  Happy dreams.

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