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DET+AET Part I (translated from Russian)
« on: August 26, 2003, 12:06:00 PM »
See

Post 443748 (missing)

(azole: "DET + alpha-ET synth&reports, Part I", Russian HyperLab)
for the source version. Some references are added, and most of the subjective details of the trip reports are omitted in the English translation.

Disclaimer
   Records were not kept for some of the syntheses presented. Subtle details of the reaction conditions, exact volumes of the solvents and the yields of the products may be presented inaccurately. It is better to treat the report below as science fiction (this is not far from being true, since much is forgotten after 3 years passed).
   The object of biological testing, SWIM, is very sensitive to the action of serotonergic preparations (threshold dosage of mescaline is as low as 10-15 mg, not 100 mg reported in literature), so the dosages mentioned in the text will most probably appear too low for an average man.

Basic results
1. Indole-3-acetic acid (IAA) in the reaction with Et2NH and POCl3 in CHCl3 forms diethylamide which was isolated in a good yield and in a pure form by means of crystallization of its picrate. By reduction of the diethylamide with LAH in THF, DET was obtained, and further converted to fumarate (2DET.H2Fum), a stable water-soluble crystalline form. The attempts to obtain DET hydrogen tartrate as crystals were unsuccessful.
2. The potassium salt of IAA on heating in (EtCO)2O formed a mixture containing 1-(1-propionylindol-3-yl)-2-butanone which, after removal of the propionyl group (MeONa/MeOH) followed by reductive amination  (Al/Hg, aq. NH3, NaOH - i-PrOH), gave alpha-ET in a very low yield. Evidently, this reaction sequence shouldn't be used for its preparation. The conclusion that the compound synthesized was indeed alpha-ET was made after simple tests for functional groups and on the basis of its biological activity (mydriasis, neck and shoulder tension, tight jaws, and drowsiness). Empathogenic and stimulating effects were not observed.

   Several years ago two young chemists decided to make DET from indoleacetic acid. Quite soon they succeeded in obtaining IAA diethylamide using CDI or DCC to effect the condensation (both methods were tested) but they couldn't purify the amide, as it refused to crystallize. Alumohydride reduction yielded the amine which was purified by a/b extraction. The product refused to crystallize, too. A solution of tartaric acid (excess) was then added to the amine, and the resulting solution was evaporated. No crystals formed. On addition of ether to an alcoholic solution of the salt, oil separated. Finally, the whole mixture was concentrated on a rotary evaporator, and the resulting brown, scatole-smelling syrup was biotested. The dosages were measured very roughly by the size of a drop on the tip of a tea-spoon (hmm... didn't taste good). Surprisingly, nobody had been harmed.

   During the trip (~60-100 mg DET, orally), SWIM experienced persistent gastric pain, very distracting. Three other persons who had tested that batch of DET said they had never had such a problem. SWIM wanted to know if pure DET would act on him in the same way.
   There was no compelling motivation to start the synthesis until SWIM reached for TiHKAL and became interested in

alpha-ET

(http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal11.shtml). The article (

None

(http://hyperlab.bravepages.com/candyflip.djvu) describing the synergism between LSD and MDMA made SWIM envision an interesting effect of DET and alpha-ET ingested together in a lower dosage. DET was considered as "LSD-like", and alpha-ET as "MDMA-like".
   SWIM planned to make alpha-ET by reductive amination of 1-(indol-3-yl)-2-butanone (Ind2B) which he wanted to obtain from IAA and propionic anhydride following the procedure for 1-(indol-3-yl)-2-propanone (Ind2P) described in a nice Russian compilation “Preparative chemistry of indole” (the original procedure can be found in J. Chem. Soc. (1952), p.3172). Other methods were inaccessible at that time, since no reagents were at hand. Even IAA had to be obtained from its ethyl ester. Hydrolysis of the latter with alcoholic KOH furnished crystalline potassium salt of IAA; from the mother liquor less pure IAA was isolated after acidification.
   The salt was heated in (EtCO)2O until evolution of CO2 ceased. A complex mixture (at least 4 spots on TLC after spraying with Ehrlich’s reagent) was obtained, which was treated with MeONa/MeOH to deacylate the indolic nitrogen. The number and relative position of spots on the chromatogram of the resulting mixture remained the same, so SWIM couldn’t follow the course of deacylation and tell which one corresponded to the desired product. Strong odor of scatole emerged in the course of deacylation, and SWIM decided not to separate the mixture by column chromatography, as it would have been insecure. The mixture was reductively aminated with Al/Hg - aq. NH3 – i-PrOH (SWIM hoped that the procedure given in PiHKAL for the synthesis of MDMA would be applicable to Ind2B and NH3) to yield a very little amount of the product, which was converted to fumarate and acetate (off-white crystals, ~300 mg overall). Ninhydrine test showed the presence of an amino group. Ehrlich’s reagent indicated that the indole nucleus was also present. The mother liquors darkened after several hours, and the next crop of the product could be obtained only after a/b purification. In retrospect, the method chosen for the reductive amination was the most inappropriate. In the presence of water the equilibrium concentration of the imine formed from a ketone and ammonia is prohibitively low. Acceptable yields are achieved only with more nucleophilic amines like MeNH2 and EtNH2

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/alhg.osmium.html

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Post 328699

(Rhodium: "Your detailed writeups are great, Barium!", Novel Discourse)
)
but then SWIM didn’ know it. Why not oxime reduction? Really, why? <rhetoric question> Curiously, in a week or two after the synthesis had been completed, this route was proposed in

Post 6158

(psyloxy: "IAA --> AET", Tryptamine Chemistry)
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   The biotests were started with 75 mg of the fumarate per os on an empty stomach. The body felt as if quite an active dosage of a serotonergic substance had been taken (reminiscent of mescaline or 2C-B). The eyes felt tired in a familiar way, the pupils were dilated; there was neck, shoulder and jaw tension. As to the changes in the mood or in the manner of thinking – there were none. Besides, there was a noticeable sedative effect. With no desire to communicate, SWIM was sitting with eyes closed, and napped from time to time. Several weeks later, the test was repeated with 85 mg of the acetate. The effects were the same, and SWIM decided not to increase the dosage, because the bodily effects were already strong.
   The structure of the substance obtained remains unjustified since it was risky to record a NMR spectrum (it would have been filed and probably sold out as a part of a database). SWIM believes that he dealt with alpha-ET indeed. The probability for so familiar effects to be caused by some side-product is too low.
   Why sedation instead of stimulation? Why did the mood remain unchanged? Probably, this is accounted for the peculiarities of SWIM’s organism. Years before, SWIM found that amphetamine, both self-made (PhCH2MgCl + MeCN -> PhCH2C(=NMgCl)CH3  –(i. LAH, one-pot; ii. H2O)-> PhCH2CH(NH2)CH3, 22%, crystalline sulfate, in kitchen), and the proven one, didn’t act on him as a stimulant, and caused only yawning, difficult breathing, and headache. In a well-known Russian medicinal guidebook by M. D. Mashkovskii, it is mentioned that amphetamine (but not methamphetamine) acts paradoxically on some 10-15% of the population but nothing is said concerning the nature of this phenomenon and its correlation with the action of other medicines. Internet search gave no answer, too. If you know how to explain the paradoxical action of amphetamine, please let me know.
 
   To synthesize DET, SWIM could reduce IAA to tryptophol or make IAA diethylamide via chloroanhydride (known methods) but it was more interesting to effect the amide synthesis using POCl3 like it was described for LSD in TiHKAL (

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml

). There was a problem, however. LSD is a base and can be separated from hexaethylphosphoramide (formed from POCl3) by extraction into aqueous acid. IAA diethylamide is neutral and cannot be isolated in this manner. When pure, it is an odorless crystalline solid, m.p. 101°C (

None

(http://hyperlab.bravepages.com/wegler.djvu)) but then SWIM was completely unaware of that fact, and didn’t read the article. Anyway, it is unlikely that crystallization of the amide from the mixture would be efficient, since there is much hexaethylphosphoramide, and it would act as a co-solvent.
   There is interesting information concerning IAA diethylamide preparation and its properties in the above article (in German).It appears that the authors have proven that the diethylamide cannot be obtained from IAA ethyl ester and diethylamine even at 200°C (in a bomb). Then, they considered the synthesis of the amide through the chloroanhydride inefficient due to tar formation (it’s only later, that the low-temperature procedure for the preparation of the chloroanhydride appeared). Finally, they prepared the amide from IndMgI and ClCH2CONEt2. By the way, they were first to obtain the picrate of IAA diethylamide, m.p. 139-140°C.
   The molar ratio of IAA/POCl3/Et2NH (1:2:9) was the same as in TiHKAL (LSD from lysergic acid monohydrate). This may be too large an excess of the reagents, since IAA is anhydrous, and the product is not that precious. After the amide synthesis was accomplished, and SWIM realized that (Et2N)3PO cannot be removed by washing the mixture with water, he considered chromatographing it or throwing it away. Suddenly it occurred to him that the indolic amide might form a crystalline picrate. This was indeed obtained in good yield. Moreover, most of colored impurities, along with so-hated scatole, were thus removed. Pure IAA diethylamide was obtained by treating the picrate with dilute aq. NH3. The solubility of ammonium picrate in water is low, and SWIM was surprised seeing it crystallize. Probably, it is better to use Na2CO3 solution.
   The pure amide was reduced with LAH (~1 g / g amide, i.e. large excess) in THF under argon at reflux, very carefully, since there was time for only one attempt. Crystalline DET fumarate was then prepared in good yield, and biotested.

   DET fumarate (30 mg) was kept in the mouth for 5 minutes (the taste allowed it), then swallowed, and SWIM went to visit a friend. After ~25 minutes, there were first signs of activity. Perhaps, it would be better to describe it as a change in the focus of attention. By ~40-50 minutes, the effects were fully expressed. Thinking became a risky affair, as the flow of thoughts echoed the outer events, and vice versa, and all this affected the condition of the body. It was then evident that to keep the world in order was possible only by controlling the occasional thoughts, that is, by watching them and cutting off the incoming fantasies. Out of his silence, SWIM looked at people and realized that they have absolutely no time to notice anything, as they are caught into their mental rumination. They take a momentary look at things, then fall into semi-consciousness and suppose that nothing will change until they deign to look again.
   When talking with friends, SWIM was concerned about being socially adequate. He noticed that the action of the drug spread to all the company. It was not stimulation but, rather, alcohol-like disinhibition; SWIM started to talk eagerly, then forgot what he was speaking about. There was a constant burning sensation in the stomach, and SWIM decided to quit experimenting with DET, as he suspected that it could be ulcerogenic to him, even in a pure form.  The effects faded, and SWIM managed to sleep some 6.5 hours after ingestion.
   There were two tests with 10-12 mg of DET fumarate and 25-30 mg alpha-ET fumarate taken together. In the first one, the substances were taken sublingually, kept in the mouth for several (perhaps 10) minutes, and then spitted out. No effects were noticeable until SWIM began listening to music. It seemed that the sound became very lively because of added reverberation.
   In the second test, the substances were swallowed. The effects were mild but rather unpleasant to SWIM. Coherent thinking was difficult, and there was a vague feeling of suffering in the body. Again, the outer events were interconnected with the thoughts.
   Possibly, not going higher was a mistake. But then there was no drive to increase the dosages, or to start a new synthesis, since the initial results were disappointing to SWIM.

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DET+AET Part II (experimental)
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2003, 12:31:00 PM »
See

Post 443756 (missing)

(azole: "DET + alpha-ET synth&reports, Part II, exptl.", Russian HyperLab)
for the source version. Some corrections have been made, and the procedure for alpha-ET synthesis has been rewritten in accordance with the notes found by SWIM recently (when posting the initial (Russian) version, he supposed that there were none left).

Experimental part.

   Diethylamine was dried over NaOH pellets overnight and used without distillation. Chloroform, stabilized with unknown (within 0.1-0.5%) amount of EtOH was used without purification.  Indole-3-acetic acid (beige scatole-smelling crystals) was used without purification, too. Commercial 95% ethanol is designated as EtOH for short. Tetrahydrofuran was distilled from sodium benzophenone ketyl solution under argon. Diethyl ether was peroxide-free (negative NaI test). Solutions were dried by filtering through a pad of Na2SO4-Celite mixture and evaporated on a rotary evaporator (aspirator vacuum, 40°C water bath). To minimize losses in the course of extraction or filtration, the traces of a substance were extracted from an aqueous phase or washed from a filter with an additional volume of a solvent.  Room temperature (19-22°C) is referred to as rt.

Indole-3-acetic acid and its potassium salt (hydrolysis of ethyl indole-3-acetate).

   IndCH2CO2Et (10.0 g) was suspended in EtOH (40 mL); pelleted KOH (1.2 eq.) was added, and the mixture was stirred at 40°C for ~2 h (this may appear longer than necessary; the reaction is finished when a drop of the mixture gives a clear solution in water). Immediately after the addition of KOH, oil separated (the starting ester was salted out); after several minutes potassium indole-3-acetate began to precipitate as beautiful white leaflets, while KOH and the ester dissolved. After completion of hydrolysis, the reaction mixture was allowed to stand in a refrigerator for an hour; the potassium salt of IAA was filtered off with suction, washed with cold EtOH and air-dried. Yield 7 g.
   The mother liquor was evaporated, dissolved in water (20 mL), treated with activated charcoal, filtered and acidified with AcOH with stirring. Indole-3-acetic acid, precipitated as beige crystals, was filtered off and dried in vacuo. Yield 2.4 g.

N,N-Diethylindole-3-acetamide picrate.

 Indole-3-acetic acid (2.4 g, 14 mmole) was suspended in CHCl3 (50 ml) in a RBF fitted with a reflux condenser and a magnetic stirbar, and Et2NH (12.8 mL, 124 mmole) was added. The solution formed was heated to ~50°C , and POCl3 (2.6 mL, 28 mmole) was added dropwise with stirring at a rate slow enough to avoid vigorous boiling. The mixture was refluxed for 5 min. and cooled to rt with tap water.  It was acidic to universal indicator paper. Diethylamine was added to make the pH alkaline (it may well be unnecessary), and the mixture was refluxed for 5 minutes again. Then it was cooled; water (50 mL) was added; the organic layer was separated, washed with 10% Na2CO3 solution, then with water, 5% AcOH, with water again, dried and evaporated. The resulting mixture of diethylamides of indole-3-acetic and phosphoric acids (viscous brown syrup) was dissolved in EtOH (10mL) and a warm solution of picric acid (3.77 g, 16.5 mmole) in EtOH (~20-25 mL) was added to it. After cooling to rt, water was added dropwise with stirring until the solution became slightly cloudy. Several drops of EtOH were added to make it clear again, and crystallization was stimulated. After keeping the mixture for some time in a refrigerator, the product (fine light-yellow crystals) was filtered off with suction, washed with cold (-20°C) EtOH, and dried. Yield >80%.
   Note: possibly, the solution of the picrate before crystallization was treated with activated charcoal when still warm, and filtered. SWIM couldn’t remember the actual procedure of crystallization.

Indole-3-acetic acid diethylamide.

   The picrate obtained in the previous step was suspended in DCM (50 mL); 5% aq. NH3 (excess) was added, and the mixture was shaken for 5 minutes. The crystals of the picrate dissolved, and ammonium picrate precipitated. The mixture was filtered; the organic layer was separated, dried and evaporated. The amide was obtained in nearly quantitative yield as a slightly yellow odorless syrup.

N,N-Diethyltryptamine fumarate.

   A 100 mL RBF fitted with a reflux condenser, magnetic stirbar, dropping funnel and Ar inlet was dried in the vacuum of an oil pump for 10 minutes, then filled with dry Ar. Absolute THF (30 mL) was added, followed  by LAH (2.5 g), and the resulting suspension was refluxed for 0.5 h to dissolve as much LAH as possible. After cooling to rt, a solution of the amide obtained in the previous step in abs. THF (20 mL) was added dropwise with stirring at a rate that kept the reaction controllable, and the mixture was refluxed for 2 h, cooled with ice-water, and IPA was added dropwise with good stirring until gas evolution ceased (at some moment, stirring was difficult due to gel formation, but soon the mixture became less viscous). The precipitated hydroxides were made white and granular by addition of 15% aq. NaOH with stirring, filtered off with suction, and washed with IPA several times. The filtrate and washings were evaporated; the residue was dissolved in ice-cold dilute H2SO4 (couldn't remember the concentration, perhaps 1:50 v/v), and washed with DCM to remove neutral impurities. The aqueous phase was made basic with a cold NaOH solution, and extracted 3 times with DCM. The extracts were dried and evaporated. The residue (clear brownish syrup) crystallized on standing in a refrigerator. The yield was high.
   Diethyltryptamine base was dissolved in MeOH; a warm methanolic solution of fumaric acid (0.55 mole per mole of the amine) was added, and the mixture was evaporated to form a foam. This was redissolved in MeOH (1 mL/g); EtOAc (~2 mL/g) was added (the solution should be still clear), and crystallization was stimulated. An additional amount of the product was precipitated with Et2O . Yield 2.2 g (58% from IAA) of nearly white crystals. The substance must be protected from light (when kept in a glass vial, it became brown, and the color was deeper on the more exposed side).

Alpha-ethyltryptamine (fumarate and acetate).

   The mixture of (EtCO)2O (30 mL) and potassium indole-3-acetate (7 g) was stirred at 140-148°C for 12 h (4+8 in two consecutive days) in a RBF with a reflux condenser connected to a bubble-counter to prevent excessive contact with the atmospheric oxygen. At 100-110° a clear solution formed. Gas evolution had stopped after ~11 h heating. TLC (97:3 CHCl3 – Me2CO v/v, Ehrlich’s reagent) showed the presence of at least 4 indolic compounds. To the cooled mixture MeOH (20 mL) was added to destroy excess anhydride, and the mixture was allowed to stand for 0.5 h. Then it was diluted with CHCl3 (100 mL) and washed with water, then with aq. Na2CO3 to remove acids, dried and evaporated. Toluene was distilled off the residue to remove traces of water and CHCl3. The resulting dark brown semisolid was dissolved in MeOH (40 mL) and PhMe (10 mL) (without PhMe the dissolution was incomplete), and 1N MeONa in MeOH (5 mL) was added. The mixture remained strongly alkaline during the reaction. After 1.5 h at rt it was made neutral with AcOH. The solution, which supposedly contained 1-(indol-3-yl)-2-butanone, was used directly in the next step.
   Aluminum powder (7 g, particle size perhaps 0.2-0.5 mm) was amalgamated using HgBr2 (~200 mg) solution, washed with water, suspended in IPA (80 mL) and 25% aq. NH3 (10 mL), and this was added to the solution of indolylbutanone. There was slow evolution of hydrogen. To accelerate the reaction, a solution of NaOH (~0.6 g) in water (2 mL) was added with stirring. As the mixture was stirred, the temperature rose to ~45°, and the rate of hydrogen evolution reached ~75 mL/min. Three 2 mL portions of aq. ammonia were added within the next 2 hours, and the mixture was stirred overnight (at some moment stirring stopped because of Al(OH)3 gel; however, all aluminum had reacted). Large excess of aq. NaOH was then added, and the mixture was extracted several times with PhMe. The amine was then extracted from PhMe into cold dilute H2SO4. Some dark insoluble tar formed upon acidification, and the aqueous extract darkened in several minutes. Dark-colored impurities were partly removed by extraction with chloroform; the mixture was then made strongly alkaline with cold NaOH solution, and was extracted 2 times with DCM. The extracts were dried and evaporated to leave a clear brownish syrup (0.42 g) which crystallized after ~0.5 h standing in a refrigerator. The odor was strong but not indolic at all; rather, it was like some sort of grape wine known for its fragrance, Isabella.
   The crystals were dissolved in MeOH, and a warm (~40°C) solution of fumaric acid in minimum amount of MeOH was added to adjust the pH to 7. Acetonitrile and EtOAc were then added until the solution became slightly cloudy. Crystallization was stimulated, and the solution with crystals was kept for ~1 h in a refrigerator. The crystals were filtered off, washed with 1:1 MeCN-EtOAc, and dried. Yield 211 mg of AET fumarate (?). (The procedure for the fumarate formation and crystallization may be presented inaccurately.)
   The mother liquor (very dark by that time) was concentrated and the residue was partitioned between DCM and cold dilute H2SO4 (some dark tar formed again). The aqueous phase was separated, made basic with a cold NaOH solution, and extracted twice with DCM. The extracts were dried and evaporated to afford a syrup (0.18 g) which was treated with AcOH (0.07 mL) in MeOH (2 mL), evaporated to dryness, and redissolved in EtOAc (2 mL), containing AcOH (0.03 mL). Crystallization was stimulated, and the solution with crystals was kept for a while in a refrigerator. The crystals were filtered off, washed with cold EtOAc, and dried to yield 85 mg of AET acetate (?). The overall yield is ~4%.

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Very nice
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2003, 09:10:00 PM »
Good work azole!  ;)

And thank you for the translation...

If you want i still have the other one...