DMT extraction recrystallization /purification

[abc123]

Unfortunatly there is a for of n,nDMT that does have a fine white salt like crystal structure.If some one were to reflux tryptamine in ethanol laden with sodium carbonate with methyl iodide,and the alkyl halide was present in a 5 to one molar ratio, after working up this batch you'll find that your left with n,n,n trimethyltryptamine iodide. I have yet to see any practical way of removing the extra methyl iodide that allows for the formation of this product. The only thing it seems to have is the same shitty taste but none of the buzz what so ever.  This probleb can be over come though if ethyl iodide were to be used in place of methyl iodide. However something funky happens here.... you'll get alpha ethyl n,n diethyltryptamine.  This compound is about 2/3 the power and potency of DET.  I belive that all of this results do to the steric hinderance that occurs when a larger alkalating group is used.  It would seem that there is no way around producing synthetic DMT with out using LiAlH4....  Does any one have any suggestions on how to proceed3e via tryptamine and avoid he use of indole? Jeasus christ does that horriable shit stink!!!!

yours in chemistry


Calamus

[terbium]

indole? Jeasus christ does that horriable shit stink!!!!

Not really, the pure material smells sort of nice; like naphthalene.

[Rhodium]

This probleb can be over come though if ethyl iodide were to be used in place of methyl iodide. However something funky happens here.... you'll get alpha ethyl n,n diethyltryptamine.  This compound is about 2/3 the power and potency of DET.

Exactly what product did you say it was? And in what yield is it formed?

[Lilienthal]

> ...you'll get alpha ethyl n,n diethyltryptamine.

No way. Depending on the molar ration used you get a mixture of primary, secondary, and tertiary tryptamine.

> This compound is about 2/3 the power and potency of DET

alpha-ethylation completely abolishes psychedelic activity (especially for tertiary amines).

N,N,N-trimethyltryptamines can be converted to dimethyltryptamines by reaction with LiAlH₄ or ethanolamine. Or by distillation  

[psycosmo]

Maybe tryptamine in excess of NaBH4 and formaldayde.... seen similar stuff in rhodium docs and synth books... someone here told me that yields would be low... but the chems are cheap and perhaps this could be adapted using ethyl, propyl, isopropyl aldehydes to get other stuff...... I need to take more chemistry courses!
ne1 know a good simulation program for the Mac?

[foxy2]

Lili
Do you know of an actual reference to the ethanol amine decarboxylation?


Do Your Part To Win The War

[Rhodium]

Decarboxylation? If it is anything, it is a demethylation of DMT methiodide to DMT. The reaction is mentioned in March's book.