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Freebase Stablity
killerbeezzz:
Swim has 30ml of raw MDMA freebase that is diluted with 150ml of DCM. The problem is that swim can not distill it for a week. He is wondering if putting it in the freezer is the way to maintain the stability of his freebase? Also Swim if planning on using the Brightstar crystallization method. The issue that Swim has there is that is is supposed to be anhydrous but the directions say to add Muric acid and that contains water. Does Swim need to find a different source of HCL?
DoctorFeelgood:
freezing for a week should not be a problem. i would recommend to dissolve the distilled freebase in xylene or toluene, then gas with HCl (e.g. NaCL + HCL + H2SO4).
killerbeezzz:
What are the advantages of gassing verses the BS meathod? Will I get a better yeild?
ApprenticeCook:
as long as it is stored in NP and placed in freezer your fb will be fine for a week....
as for gassing methods UTFSE as the options have been done to death and it has been shown everyone has their own opinion on the issue....
How did you get this far without knowing your gassing method? thats the easiest part!
-AC
killerbeezzz:
This attempt is SwiK's second attempt at the Al/Hg via the MM method. He followed the directions in the MM method writeup to the T the first try. When it came time to gas he had not done an A/B extraction. Nor had he distilled the freebase. When he gassed the toluene all that happened was it got cloudy for a minute. Then it went clear again after a few hours of sitting in the freezer there was brownish oil at the bottom with crystals growing out of it. After 2 days he harvested the crystals and tasted them. It ended up being about 5g of MDMA. This time he did a few recommended changes to the MM method. That included letting the Al amalgamate longer before starting the nitro/ketone dripping, pre charging the amalgamation with 3ml of nitro, and refluxing for 2 hours after the nitro/ketone addition was finished. Then he did the work up on the toluene with four 500ml dH2O washes and one 500ml saturated NaCl wash. Then he did a A/B extraction with 200ml of 10% hcl and then basified that with 150ml of 20% NaOh solution. Once the PH was at 12 he stopped basifying the aqueous layer was a milky white with very light brown oil at the bottom of the sep funnel. He added 50ml of DCM and shook for 2 min and dropped the DCM and oil layer out of the funnel. He then did five more 50ml DCM washes. He is wondering if there might be more freebase in the toluene because it still smells like ketone and is a little cloudy. Should he try a second A/B on the existing toluene?
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