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The Hive => Chemicals & Equipment => Topic started by: Vibrating_Lights on September 03, 2002, 06:54:00 AM

Title: (2,5-DIMETHOXYPHENYL)ACETONE
Post by: Vibrating_Lights on September 03, 2002, 06:54:00 AM
Is this scheduled/watched.  Probably a stupid question.
Vl_

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Vl_
Title: I would be almost positive that it is watched, it ...
Post by: carboxyl on September 03, 2002, 07:09:00 AM
I would be almost positive that it is watched, it isn't scheduled like a say a drug would be Schedule I or II or IV. Neither is it a List I or II chemical. In the US at least.

The above post is purely fictional. Any resemblance to "real-life" is purely coincidental.
Title: Same in Germany
Post by: Nemo_Tenetur on September 03, 2002, 08:53:00 AM
Not scheduled, probably watched, hard to get.
Title: once
Post by: Vibrating_Lights on September 03, 2002, 07:34:00 PM
You would really only need to get it once.  A kilo would be worth in upwards of $100000 it you worked it right.

So much game I could sell a hooker some pussy
Vl_
Title: Conscience
Post by: moo on September 03, 2002, 09:16:00 PM
Then we could have lots of kids having time of their life OD'ing on DOX-compounds. "Gee, I'm not feeling anything! What the heck, I'll  take two more hits of those extra thick blotters..."
Title: RE: coscience
Post by: SPISSHAK on September 03, 2002, 11:31:00 PM
Business has no heart.
Title: market
Post by: Vibrating_Lights on September 04, 2002, 05:56:00 AM
If you market it for what it is then those risks could be minimized.  Passing it off as acid would definatly cause some problems like that.  There will always be stupid irresponsible people who are going to OD on all kinds of drugs. even better If someone was in possesion of DOx compounds then It would be better to sit on it and give it all away cause you can't put a price on an experience like that.

So much game I could sell a hooker some pussy
Vl_
Title: >If you market it for what it is then those ...
Post by: yellium on September 04, 2002, 02:22:00 PM
>If you market it for what it is then those risks could be minimized.

Bullshit. See 2CT7. Even *with* documentation on erowid people tend to snort eyeballed 2ct7.
Title: The world is filled with idiots who has to be ...
Post by: Barium on September 04, 2002, 04:05:00 PM
The world is filled with idiots who has to be protected from life itself. This is where the government steps in and take control.

-"We will protect your sorry asses in exchange for your total obedience".


Every summer there is people who still believe that a thunderstorm is a perfect weather to play golf.
-"Uhhh, I didn´t know lightning could be bad for you"....
Title: So yellium Your saying its the seller of 2-ct-7's ...
Post by: foxy2 on September 05, 2002, 01:56:00 AM
So yellium

Your saying its the seller of 2-ct-7's fault?

BULLSHIT

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
Title: look east
Post by: CrystalDaddy on September 05, 2002, 02:32:00 AM
they'll make anything for a price.
Title: No. I'm saying that whatever you do, there will ...
Post by: yellium on September 05, 2002, 08:16:00 PM
No. I'm saying that whatever you do, there will always be people who don't read the instructions and just take what feels `enough' to them. Or macho dimwits who do read erowid  and pop twice as much as recommended because they need/can handle more stuff anyway.

The point is, if you want to sell psychedelics, you want to sell psychedelics with a large safety margin. That is: dose-effect should go more-or-less linear (as far as that can be possible with psychedelics), and it should be safe to use even at unexpectedly high dosages. 2CT7 for example, is a bit tricky.

And just as you don't want street dealers selling pure, uncut fentanyl, a trip seller^W^W `research chemical supplier' should think ahead when selling a currently unscheduled heavy-duty psychedelic like DOEF or DOC.

Title: that´s right yellium...
Post by: aragorn on September 05, 2002, 09:52:00 PM
...but the problem is:
if you´re the evil man who has released this "new" drug to the streets and a hand full of morons OD on your stuff you´ll get the undivided attention from our dedicated LE agents
That´s the cause why SWIM will never run a synth for commercial purposes.


I pimp two bitches, Mary Jane and Snow White
Title: Yup. But as you'll always have stupid consumers, ...
Post by: yellium on September 05, 2002, 10:17:00 PM
Yup. But as you'll always have stupid consumers, you'll also always have antisocial sellers. See our recent TFMPP/BzP seller.

A way out would be to flood the market with a legal, relatively safe psychedelic. Something like 2C-B. But alas, time isn't ready yet...
Title: If 2-CB was sold as a bulk powder, I think they ...
Post by: foxy2 on September 05, 2002, 11:53:00 PM
If 2-CB was sold as a bulk powder, I think they would bee dropping like flies.

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety