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Nitrostyrenes to oximes with sodium dithionite
arseholio:
--- Quote from: b6baddawg on July 24, 2016, 03:49:48 PM ---im really not sure how to explain but how about using sodium sulfite? p2p not the oxime tho
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Why in the earth one would want to get rid of the nitrogen which has been placed there in the first hand?
arseholio:
--- Quote from: lullu on July 24, 2016, 04:59:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hanswurst on July 24, 2016, 09:55:08 AM ---Does not work, extremely low yield.
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Thanks for reporting Hans!
can you go a bit into detail I assume you reduced some nitropropene to the alleged oxime followed by Mg reduction?
Did you isolate it in between?
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Is this just parroting Vitus Verdegast's opinion? AB2 did trials - he noticed color change. So there must be some reaction. What is it? Yellowish flakes were formed at some point. I reckon these could be the nitronate. So is there anyone who could do some trials with pictures?
Zippy:
--- Quote from: arseholio on July 24, 2016, 05:25:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: b6baddawg on July 24, 2016, 03:49:48 PM ---im really not sure how to explain but how about using sodium sulfite? p2p not the oxime tho
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Why in the earth one would want to get rid of the nitrogen which has been placed there in the first hand?
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It would be the goal if you wanted to make MDMA & not MDA.
Hanswurst:
Did it twice, cold and hot and both yields were lower than 10 percent, I did distill and reduce with Na afterwards.
Barium seems to be a dipshit.
arseholio:
I think the end product could be some kind of adduct or Na-salt. It should be tried again and afterwards hydrolyzed perhaps with HCl. It's clear there is a reaction. But without any HPLC or GC-MS verification, this is just guesstimating. Is there anyone willing?
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