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bell

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Name that amine?
« on: July 04, 2002, 09:24:00 PM »
Could someone help with this amine, What I amine is, (haha) its a secondary amine, but which one?             
                                                       
       CH3                                              
       !                                             
      HC-COOH                                        
       !                                             
      HN-CH3
I sure hope that lets you know the amine I wanted named.

Thanks

GC_MS

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I think it is N-methyl alanine.
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2002, 09:38:00 PM »
I think it is N-methyl alanine. It's an amino acid derivative.

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Aurelius

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amine
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2002, 10:14:00 PM »
Hey GC_MS, you're correct. N-methyl alanine.  good luck getting it without some synthesis on your part or some heavy fees for custom synthesis.  small molecule, not hard to make, but aurelius hasn't seen many around who supply it.

bell

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In a Merke I have it says Formation of alkamines ...
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2002, 08:50:00 AM »
In a Merke I have it says Formation of alkamines by heating mixtures of aromatic aldehydes and amino acid. If the amino group is secondary then the following reaction takes place, then it show benzaldehyde + that compound = ephedrine. Unless Im mistaken on the ending product

Aurelius

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Akabori-Momotani reaction
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2002, 05:32:00 PM »
The reaction that the book is referring to would be the Akabori-Momotani reaction.  it is used for the formation of serine derivatives.  yes, you've figured out the method for ephedrine.  if you'd like here's some more specific information regarding what you're looking for.

Patent US04501919


Patent DE839500


Patent DE1086242


Patent DE960922


Patent DE1140198


Patent FR1017396



those are all patents regarding such reaction


Akabori S., Momotani K., J. Chem. Soc. Japan, 1943, 64, 608; C. A., 1947, 41, 3774
Dose K., Ber., 1957, 90, 1251.
Belikov V. M., Izv. AN SSSR. OHN, 1969, 2536

http://www.pmf.ukim.edu.mk/PMF/Chemistry/reactions/akabori2.htm



start there for details on how to do everything.  the first german patent will probably be the most helpful. 

have fun!!!

blondie

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ppa
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2002, 03:35:00 AM »
Aurelius thanks for finding and posting those patents. there are 3 distinct routes to meth via ppa which would mean that your not locked into one mechanism if the alanine, benzaldehyde condensation does work to yield ppa.

ppa + formaldehyde --> oxazoladine (reduce) --> meth
ppa (reduce) --> amphet + formaldehyde --> imine (reduce) --> meth
ppa + H2SO4 (steam distill)~60% --> p2p --> meth