The Vespiary
The Hive => Stimulants => Topic started by: Red_Crown on April 16, 2004, 03:07:00 AM
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Can the vapors of meth made with anhydrous ammonia smell ANY different than those from RP/I? (namely, like ammonia?)
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YES.
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..and for the record:
Recrystallization proceeded just fine upon addition of a little more denatured alcohol. It is very lame of the 'creators' not to have recrystallized fucking once.
Moral of the story: If you must buy, invite your dealer over to "show" them how it's done. then assumptivly weigh-out your bag from the clean batch - use their "obligedness" to your benefit.
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A lot of the times when people dry out their meth (esp. shit that hasn't been re-xtallized) They think it's dry, and it looks dry, but it really isn't. Bits of solvent or gasses or both can be trapped in the crystal lattice. Ever see some really clear looking meth (SWIM dont care what other people think, pure meth even big crystals are NOT CLEAR, but translucent if totally dry) that kinda smelled sweet, almost maybe like apples or cherries or something like that? That is almost assuredly meth that isn't totally dry that was re-xtallized with ipa (in SWIMS experience anyway). That was just an example.
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after recrystallizing the aformentioned "1g" sample, the crushed+dried recrystallate AND mother liquor together lost about 40% weight. (jerry simmons would be proud..) but that shit was LOADED with moisture.
..and now 'not drying' is yet another way for the unscrupulous cook/dealer to rip people off..
what's interesting is that there were icicles on the reXtal solution. very thin and distinct that began melting in @ RT. but, how is it possible for ~1/10 mL water (max) within 2mL 98% denat. alcohol & dash acetone, to find enough of itself to form any ice?? even 40% alcohol doesn't freeze, and aren't all of these solutes supposed to be depressing the freezing point?
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The "icicles" consist of something else than water.
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so what distinguishes a solute from a solvent then, ultimately?
the water doesn't form crystals in sol'n because it is far more soluble in the alcohol than this substX is @ low temperatures.
but i've never seen something that is a liquid @ RT be put into a solution and then @ low temp, crystallize. it's like the atmosphere and alcohol are comperable solvents to this material.. So, did it never really go into solution thus dissolve - just like a non-polar solvent? i've never heard of an NP with such a high freezing point though.
OR is this what a hydrated salt will act like? epsom salts! so they began forming a weakling crystal (the "icicle"), but it was too thin to bear its own weight and water dissolving it @ RT. like a spongy crystal. Ey?
it would best explain the complication in the preceding ideas that: the 'crystals' which initially melted, did dry eventually - superficially at least..
..hackneyed but, "live and learn"
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Solute
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000501016-file_oxgw.gif)A substance dissolved in another substance, usually the component of a solution present in the lesser amount.
Solvent
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000501016-file_oxgw.gif)a. A substance in which another substance is dissolved, forming a solution.
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000501016-file_oxgw.gif)b. A substance, usually a liquid, capable of dissolving another substance.