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The Hive => Stimulants => Topic started by: Placebo2004 on January 13, 2004, 07:36:00 AM

Title: "bad" rp?
Post by: Placebo2004 on January 13, 2004, 07:36:00 AM
hey folks  ;)
could it bee that SWIM dreamed of some excellent RP which has gone "bad" after a couple of months as a result from too high temperature at storage-place, or from just air by sometimes opening the case, or from touching it with a metal-spoon, or whatever?! it REALLY seems so!!!  ::)
how are the best conditions to store it?
Title: rp storage
Post by: embezzler on January 13, 2004, 09:40:00 AM
some storage instructions::: rp sounds kinda sensitive

http://www.italmatch.it/Red%20Phosporus_EN.htm (http://www.italmatch.it/Red%20Phosporus_EN.htm)



Title: going south?
Post by: geezmeister on January 13, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
I've never had a problem with lgrP degrading while being stored, but I've never stored any in an attic, either. It seems to me to be a very stable compound, and seems to take being left out to air dry in an open container in a hot room in the summer without a problem. I store what I have in plastic airtight containers. I have never found that it mattered whether it was stored dry, damp or wet, although I always rinse the red with hot water several times after using it and allow it to air dry before putting it in a tupperware container.

If it clumps and does not break apart easily I clean with alcohol followed by acetone rinses. If its dark after a reaction, I rinse with acetone until the rinse acetone is fairly clear. If the the red is really dirty, waxy, or tends to clump, I may boil it in HCl.

The only cautions I might give are to avoid extreme heat,  store it in a sealed container, and store it well away from iodine.
 
If you have used the red in a reaction, your problem may be contamination from the last reaction rather than degradation of the red phosphorous. Try cleaning it well before concluding that it has degraded in storage.

Title: More details...
Post by: SHORTY on January 13, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
Although geez covered just about every possibility, i am curious about the storage conditions you are refering to.  Like the approx. temp, type of container, etc.

Title: a question
Post by: Dope_Boy on January 13, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
Title: Get your own fucking name!
Post by: placebo on January 15, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
Title: Ditto
Post by: morpheus on January 15, 2004, 04:00:00 PM
Title: Copycat names are against the Hive rules
Post by: Rhodium on January 15, 2004, 08:27:00 PM
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