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The Hive => Chemistry Discourse => Topic started by: Bwiti on June 04, 2003, 11:02:00 AM

Title: NaOH / Parsley Seed Oil..
Post by: Bwiti on June 04, 2003, 11:02:00 AM
Lets say someone mixed aqueous 5% NaOH with parsley seed oil.. Which layer will be the allylbenzenes?? Both are of about the same darkness..

Title: The viscosity will easily reveal which layer...
Post by: Barium on June 04, 2003, 05:02:00 PM
The viscosity will easily reveal which layer is the aqueous and the organic. Watch where the aqueous solution goes when you mix the liquids. It shouldn't be that hard.

Title: why?
Post by: hypo on June 04, 2003, 06:18:00 PM
> Lets say someone mixed aqueous 5% NaOH with parsley seed oil..

why would you do that? this method seems pretty useless:

the non-propenylbenzene parts of parsley seed oil were added to
dil. NaOH in a testtube. the whole lot was shaken like crazy.
after few minutes two phases separated. => practically no purification.
Title: hey..
Post by: Bwiti on June 04, 2003, 10:59:00 PM
"this method seems pretty useless"

  Well, the NaOH layer took on a dark color when mixed with the parsley seed oil, so some garbage must have been extracted from it.. It worked for me.
  Btw, I added a drop of the top layer to a test tube half-filled with dH2O.. The top layer's the substituted allylbenzenes.
:)

Title: Like always if there are no halogens in the...
Post by: Lilienthal on June 04, 2003, 11:18:00 PM
Like always if there are no halogens in the molecule...  :)
Title: nah...
Post by: hypo on June 04, 2003, 11:22:00 PM
> Well, the NaOH layer took on a dark color when mixed

yes, in my experiment too. that means nothing. the layer
did not get significantly smaller. 49% or 50%, why bother?

(otoh, if it makes u happy - do what ever you want...)
Title: huh?
Post by: hypo on June 04, 2003, 11:25:00 PM
and oxygen, sometimes, isn't it?
Title: sorry.. this was already answered :D
Post by: bones on June 05, 2003, 09:08:00 AM
so i deleted my post
Title: NaOH
Post by: Aurelius on June 05, 2003, 05:43:00 PM
Bwiti, they are right about the amount of impurities being removed.  It's very small, but it's ok.  however, the idea that the NaOH might cause some polymerization (with a little heat or if it sits overnight) makes me think that it's not the best idea.  Don't wash anything- distill first, then wash to help clean the final product.  Be sure to dry your product and then do a final distillation. 

if done correctly (and if you starting material was worth the money) you should get 98%+ purity.