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The Hive => Chemicals & Equipment => Topic started by: DiMethyl on April 26, 2002, 02:41:00 PM

Title: Palladium Chloride gone from Auction Site
Post by: DiMethyl on April 26, 2002, 02:41:00 PM
I had become so used to seeing palladium chloride for sale on my favorite auction site ( to remain nameless ), that its disappearance from that site got my attention right away.
Perhaps the source just temporarily ran out, but my suspicous nature leads me to believe otherwise and I suspect some broader implications.
I'm still looking for some pure palladium metal but nothing yet.
Title: Thanks
Post by: DiMethyl on April 26, 2002, 03:54:00 PM
Coin shop?
Good idea.
Thanks
Title: hadn't seen it in a while...
Post by: ClearLight on April 26, 2002, 04:44:00 PM
NaBH4 used to be there as well... no more...


Infinite Radiant Light - THKRA
Title: and
Post by: humidbeing on April 26, 2002, 07:06:00 PM
Dimethyl, swim ahs also noticed sassy source gone from fav auction place as well, and this does seem a little weird.
  Also said source went from 32oz quantities to adding
one gallon offers prior to being seemingly absent
altogether.
  Kind troubling?

CG I miss you sweety, I really do.
Title: agat
Post by: humidbeing on April 26, 2002, 07:08:00 PM
The timing seems a little too arranged.
  Poly Sam you're the expert, any comments?

CG I miss you sweety, I really do.
Title: that sassy source
Post by: ClearLight on April 27, 2002, 12:18:00 AM
ClearLight took a look at that sassy source at the auction site, and then went back and checked all the prior auctions... hmmm that was all they ever sold... hmmm then there was that web site that was all they sold... and this was from one of those southern states....hmmm like southern shit kickers don't have a ton of OTHER shit to sell???

  CL's arts training gaave him this little umbrella voice, you know, the one that on a sunny day says take the umbrella, and if you don't your fucked.. that he learned to listen to... When I saw that auction I allowed the energy of the page to permeate my being and see what the umbrella voice said... it reminded me of just how those black widow spiders hang out in their web all shiny and stilleto like...

  In computer security they are called honey pots... put them out and see what you attract...
>:(

Infinite Radiant Light - THKRA
Title: ALL.MOST procured PdCl, and A pair of I's
Post by: none_the_less on April 27, 2002, 12:24:00 AM
i THiNk i allMOST went that roUte with the PdCl @ some E.d.c.BA site or sUmthINg like that I2 forgot.

Ive never experienced this whole online buying and selling thing... its a whole nother universe full of 95% bullshit and the FIVE PERCENTERS that are comfortable maKING a TreNd Setting, yet silent & *"honest" living, even if they make no $ at all.
*(for this opinion honesty and legality are not of the same pODD)

well any way, damn they will let you sell pretty much any thing, i thUnk i allmOST boUght a pair of EiYiE2s for USD$50:25*g. when i thought about it enough, if it sound to good to be true than, you either do it or i didnt.

i rather stUmble into my Darkroom, there should be should be some Amber Bottles somewhere...

Keep On Movin .....
don't STOP
.

ciao
none_the_lesss
Title: Huh?
Post by: dr_ruthenium on April 28, 2002, 12:42:00 PM
CL: Are you talking about the auction site vendor which sells 16 oz, 32 oz and gallons?  Also has a web site selling 2.2 lbs, 19.8 lbs, and 5 gallons for like $875?  If so, has anyone purchased from them?  Anyone made product with their oil?
Title: feds
Post by: kapen on April 28, 2002, 01:38:00 PM
dont order anything but aparatus from the auction site just to bee safe. how hard is it to look elsewhere open your eyes and put a few more keystrokes into various search engine you can find everything your looking for very easily. a couple emails here a couple there. dont be an idiot. or suffer the consequences.
-kap-

Just say know.
Title: Too late
Post by: dr_ruthenium on April 28, 2002, 01:52:00 PM
Too late.  Have been discrete.  Nothing to my home.  Etc., etc., etc.  Just wanted if anyone knew about that source in particular as far as product?!
Title: don't know
Post by: ClearLight on April 28, 2002, 06:22:00 PM
Web site is gone... don't know if this one is the same as the web site... but hey, if you got your dead drops set up right, why not...

Infinite Radiant Light - THKRA
Title: Nope, that web site is still up!!!
Post by: dr_ruthenium on April 29, 2002, 07:08:00 AM
Nope, that web site is still up!!!
Title: pssst....
Post by: Vibrating_Lights on April 29, 2002, 09:34:00 PM
:P
Title: PdCl2 Returns
Post by: DiMethyl on April 30, 2002, 02:06:00 PM
Yes----the catalyst has returned to the web site so its disappearance was only temporary.
Title: Nope
Post by: Goodtimes on April 30, 2002, 02:15:00 PM
Swim was always worried about being fucked with the Palladium off of the auction site....

expensive shit to find out that you ended up buying NaPdCl2.

fuck that..

"The gods are too fond of a joke."  (Aristotle)

Title: scared
Post by: utopium on April 30, 2002, 05:59:00 PM
Swim knows someone who bought the sassy from the business at that online auction.  He bought from them only once, before he even knew about the hive, security, etc.  He watched the auction site to see if this place still sold it, and noticed for a while that they didn't seem to sell anymore.  Swim stopped looking and thought nothing more about it.  Then,  months later out of the blue, they send him an email saying "We have Sassafras back in Stock!"  It was really quite disturbing, and swim obviously ignored the email.

Have you ever known a shady guy who disappears for a while, then comes back with a strange story about where he's been?  Then, he wants you to get involved in some funky stuff?  Well, that's exactly how swim felt when he saw that email.

"No...why would I need a fire extinguisher?"
Title: Swim too
Post by: TheBlindGenius on April 30, 2002, 09:29:00 PM
One of swim's friends told swim that when they ordered sassy from that site, the supplier sent them an email stating "stock up now, we sell one gallon for only $xxx."  scary?  maybe, swim doesn't know
Title: huummmmmmmm
Post by: pickler on April 30, 2002, 09:47:00 PM
Sounds too good to be true. Gallons can be found, but if someone is soliciting sales, sounds like a trap. I'd steer clear of that place. Only takes one time to get ya busted.

We'll soon find out if I'm a chemist or not!
Title: Yeah
Post by: Fully_Auto on April 30, 2002, 10:03:00 PM
I'm with Pickler that just seems odd.

Title: "Have you ever known a shady guy who disappears ...
Post by: Bwiti on May 01, 2002, 04:56:00 AM
"Have you ever known a shady guy who disappears for a while, then comes back with a strange story about where he's been?  Then, he wants you to get involved in some funky stuff?  Well, that's exactly how swim felt when he saw that email."

  Yup, been there, done that! Fuck that!
:o

Love my country, fear my government.
Title: Skeptical
Post by: Goodtimes on May 01, 2002, 07:36:00 AM
I don't get the sassy worrying.

From what I can tell, possession of only sassy is not a crime in itself.  I would be more worried about buying online, with p-benzo, pdcl, sassy, and glassware in my profile.

Now that, I would be worried about.. and yes, I have seen it.  Stupid, stupid stupid stupid.

But I would feel somewhat secure if I ordered online, although I don't.  Use necessary precaution to keep your name totally uninvolved...





"The gods are too fond of a joke."  (Aristotle)

Title: Are we all refering to the same place?
Post by: dr_ruthenium on May 01, 2002, 07:39:00 AM
Are we all refering to the same place?  There are two on that auction site.  Has anyone bought from the place with two names ?  If so, did this sassy result in honey???
Title: sassy
Post by: pickler on May 01, 2002, 08:57:00 AM
If your soo desperate for sassy that you have to risk safety, then you probably souldn't be "experimenting". Swim would rather have no sassy and be free. Nothing is worth jail. If you can't find it, try Rhodium's page. There are methods for getting your safrole other ways. It might not be Ideal and take longer, but safety is first. When sassy oil gets locked down by our friends the DEA, other routes are going to have to be used. Just something to think about.

We'll soon find out if I'm a chemist or not!
Title: Sassy worries
Post by: Jubrail on May 01, 2002, 08:30:00 PM
There is reason to be worried about sassy.  They are cracking down.  They've busted people for selling and tracked down who they sold to.  Don't want to mention any specifics, but I have the court documents in my room right now.

Rainbows & Butterflies Forever :)
Title: So...
Post by: noj on May 01, 2002, 10:13:00 PM
Let's quit talking about places that sell, places to find and parts of names of places that sell. Fucking retards. Quit fucking it up for everyone. Fuck you piss me off. How long do you think it will be now? Do you think The Hive doesn't have big brother reading it? Is that code so cryptic that they can't figure out who to shut down next? Go find another hobby before someone gets you hurt.

Mastery is based on the understanding and practice of technique.


Please edit those posts!
Title: Yeah, your right. I just didn't realize that ...
Post by: dr_ruthenium on May 02, 2002, 07:00:00 AM
Yeah, your right.  I just didn't realize that there was anything illegal about selling or purchasing sassafras oil!!!  Do we know this to be true?!
Title: sassy oil
Post by: pickler on May 02, 2002, 07:35:00 AM
Buying or selling sassy oil is not illegal, but what people use it for is. Sassy oil doesn't have that many uses except for welll you know.

We'll soon find out if I'm a chemist or not!
Title: aromatherapy
Post by: kapen on May 02, 2002, 11:54:00 AM
you mean sassy isnt just used for aromatherapy? i wonder when water is going to get scheduled i cant think of many synths that dont use it.
-kap-

Just say know.
Title: Where the hell is that PdCl2 from palladium ...
Post by: Bwiti on May 03, 2002, 12:34:00 AM
Where the hell is that PdCl2 from palladium synth. Could have sworn it was on Rhodium's site?

Love my country, fear my government.
Title: pdcl2
Post by: Goodtimes on May 03, 2002, 07:44:00 PM

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/pd-catalyst.faq.html (https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/pd-catalyst.faq.html)



"The gods are too fond of a joke."  (Aristotle)

Title: Sassy Candles
Post by: DiMethyl on May 04, 2002, 02:24:00 AM
I use sassy oil for candles. Pour a tablespoon into a one pound candle and later the wonderful smell of sassy fills the home. My favorite is Calamus oil. It is like vanilla but deeper and richer. Spendy though. Of course not all of the sassy oil goes into the candles. What a waste that would be.
Title: DM: What else can sassy be used for?
Post by: dr_ruthenium on May 04, 2002, 05:46:00 AM
DM: What else can sassy be used for?  It looks like mine is destined for candles, non-potable root beer, massage oil for non-human primates, and anti-septic for rodents.
Title: "http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/pd-catalyst.faq.
Post by: Bwiti on May 04, 2002, 11:37:00 AM
"https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/pd-catalyst.faq.html"

  Thanks for the link, but it doesn't have a synth for PdCl2, just synths for other catalysts that use PdCl2. I think a synth is in one of my Fester books, but we all know how reliable he is.

Love my country, fear my government.
Title: Aqua regia?
Post by: psychokitty on May 05, 2002, 07:57:00 PM
According to the Wacker patent the reference of which I posted a while back, palladium metal can be converted to PdCl2 by dissolving in aqua regia (which if I remember correctly is simply a mixture of common acids) followed by evaporation.
Title: not all
Post by: tao on May 05, 2002, 08:07:00 PM
Nitric acid isn't so common around here.
Title: Thanks Psychokitty, but I'm worried about ...
Post by: Bwiti on May 06, 2002, 08:14:00 AM
Thanks Psychokitty, but I'm worried about attracting attention with that method. I could easily purchase concentrated nitric, but since several mail-bombs have gone off in the U.S. recently, I might be seen as a fucking terrorist. I'm better off being paranoid, because I don't want to get a nasty-gram or visitation from over-paid, fat-ass feds. Just kidding, I'm not that paranoid! ;D  My big interest is producing PdCl2 with an electric current from a battery charger or whatever. I have a picture in my head of the set-up, but I still can't remember what damn book it was from. It was for an aqueous solution of the catalyst. Tell me if this rings a bell:
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000301788-file_0xsc.jpg) 8)

Love my country, fear my government.
Title: PdCl2 Synthesis
Post by: lugh on May 06, 2002, 08:49:00 AM

Post 75765 (missing)

(lugh: "Re: PdCl2 synthesis", Methods Discourse)
Title: Thanks! 8-)
Post by: Bwiti on May 07, 2002, 08:24:00 PM
Thanks! 8)

Love my country, fear my government.
Title: photosupply record keeping?
Post by: juggaer on May 12, 2002, 01:18:00 PM
I'll take this with a grain of salt but does anyone know what kind of records your run of the mill mail order photo supply company keeps?  In addition to that how often if ever (i'm assuming they would) do they get visits from friendly agencies trying to keep the streets safe?  Are they in the same boat as a chem supply company?  Thanks.

"We must be the change we wish to see."
-- Gandhi
Title: other uses
Post by: GOD on May 12, 2002, 02:02:00 PM
sassy also used for making candy and killing head lice, also for making root beer etc...

My mom tells me Im good lookin'!!!
Title: shit talking assholes
Post by: synthesys on September 26, 2002, 12:23:00 PM
NoJ got a point there.

Why don't all of you shut the fuck up. You are fucking it up for everyone. It is always a couple of over-anxious assholes that are so excited they just can't keep their mouths shut... Start showing up in pink Caddilacs after the job, with bitches that wear fur. Keep that up, and see what happens to you.

Title: WHy the fuck you gotta bring this thread up ...
Post by: Diggity on September 26, 2002, 05:42:00 PM
WHy the fuck you gotta bring this thread up again! It was bad enought the first time around! FUCKIN STOP!!!!!! Some of you assholes are fuckin everything up for everyone esle.

Especially the weasel bastards that get popped and drop dime on their suppliers, who by the way didn't do shit to them but help them accuire the necessary chems to make these dreams come true. If your guilty of this, then you know who you are, and you know the consequences  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

& I'm, somethin of a phenom, 1 puff of da cron, I'm un-stopable.   
 
Title: You dig!
Post by: shroomanium on September 26, 2002, 09:01:00 PM
I agree. I don't share any suppliers. I know thats selfish, but I would like protect my suppliers for good reason. The way I see it, if your really dedicated to your dream you will do the research, spend the time and find a good supplier. They're out there. Why should I do the work for your dream?

-s

shroomanium • \shroo-may-ne-um\ • (noun): imaginary element found only in dreams.