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The Hive => Tryptamine Chemistry => Topic started by: catharsis on June 08, 2000, 03:53:00 PM

Title: Melatonin
Post by: catharsis on June 08, 2000, 03:53:00 PM
Ok.. just so you know i DID do a search and only found the botched foxy thread.. I'm justwondering what great things can come from this chemical. I recall a little discussion on the past boards about it..but none here.. we can only get 5-MeO-Tryptamine from it? thats not too exciting.. just wondering.

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 13, 2000, 11:34:00 AM
Tell me how to get 5-meo? I find that very exciteing.

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: catharsis on June 14, 2000, 12:14:00 PM
wasnt it you who had described a 5-meo synth? maybe it failed? If it failed you hadsome some grounds to synth it.. my question is why arent people making more things out of melatonin, and if they are what are they?

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Title: Melatonin
Post by: lyesearchingasit on June 14, 2000, 12:50:00 PM
damn you  , and you call yourself HIVE BEES when you need a STRANGER telling you what to do...

Melatonin could be decarboxed to 5-meo-T by using KOH in Glycerine....

what to do with the 5-meo-T is your call... , but check Shulgin's TIHKaL for any working (or none working) compound starting with a 5-methoxy-something , (or go for a novel compound , how does 5-meo-9,10-didehydro-n,n-diethyl-6-methylergoline-8beta-carboxamine sound to ya ??)

check Rhods page for alkyllations or reductive methylations
of tryptamines before you ask more of the same questions...


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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 14, 2000, 12:53:00 PM
No i was spewing some other bullshit out.  Reduceing that amide to just 5-meo tryptamine looks kind of difficult after scanning my orgo book.


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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: catharsis on June 14, 2000, 06:16:00 PM

"don't just ask questions , post some answers too..."(spit)



uhm well ive posted what i know.. whenever someone needs to know somthing that i know..and no one has answered this person question i always answer it. why dont you review my posts. im not all questions.. and im aware of the posts at rhodiums site.. im asking if anyones done it.. yields..etc.

"people who jump to conclusions about others can fuck off" (catharsis)

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: Lilienthal on June 15, 2000, 03:30:00 AM
Melatonin + LiAlH4 = 5-methoxy-N-ethyl-tryptamine -> 5-methoxy-N-ethyl-N-alkyl-tryptamine  :)


Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 15, 2000, 08:00:00 PM
If only they had LiALH4 at the drug store right next to melatonin,


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Title: Post deleted by KrZ
Post by: KrZ on June 15, 2000, 09:25:00 PM
Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: CHEM_GUY on June 16, 2000, 08:18:00 AM
I would think that the addition of an alkyl-halide instead of the aldehyde and hydride would be a simplier measure.

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Title: Post deleted by KrZ
Post by: KrZ on June 17, 2000, 09:48:00 AM
Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: CHEM_GUY on June 18, 2000, 12:30:00 PM
Huh?  Explain yourself please.

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 20, 2000, 02:36:00 AM
Melatonin is very expensive!!!! i didn't realize its like $3 PER mg.  Look somewhere else for a precursor, there are others.

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: MDBA420 on June 20, 2000, 04:49:00 AM
your retarded.
i'm staring at a bottle of melatonin containing 120 3mg pillz which i purchased for 2.89 you just have to look for them.

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Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 20, 2000, 06:26:00 AM
Do You KNOW What A mcg is????  Microgram, which means there are 1000 of those in a mg (milligram).  That means that bottle has 36 mg total, and you would be paying $80+tax per gram.  You better learn your unit conversions dumbass, while those are cheaper than what i found they are still a ripoff.  Now i see why placebo bitches all the time!!!!!

"trip not equal to tryptamine, tryptamine equals trip"
Title: Re: Melatonin
Post by: foxy2 on June 20, 2000, 10:27:00 PM
No it aint, why don't you start up a bisness as a chem supplier and spread the wealth  ;)
Sorry im a bitch

"trip not equal to tryptamine, tryptamine equals trip"