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The Hive => Stimulants => Topic started by: gassing_a_ton on September 21, 2004, 07:41:00 PM

Title: yet another dream
Post by: gassing_a_ton on September 21, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
swim had a dream that Li/HCI was used to reduce Epedrine is that possible .....? swim wounder's (still looking in the TFSSE)
Title: I doubt it, Li is not going to form the same...
Post by: Lestat on September 21, 2004, 08:35:00 PM
I doubt it,  Li is not going to form the same kind of "electron soup" that it does in NH3 or ethylene diamine

If you were to chuck a load of Li into a bucket of HCl, you would, if it were in the form of foil get a very violent reaction, if you used Li in the form of solid lumps you most likely will get it explode in your face.

No offense, but I think you need to learn some more basic chemistry beefore trying something like this.

Title: mate what is HCI? dont you mean HCL?
Post by: Ascension on September 21, 2004, 11:57:00 PM
mate what is HCI? dont you mean HCL?
You dont even know how to spell the substance let alone think about using it with Li to reduce pseudo.
You cant just chuck two things together and hope it works, if you dont know anything about chemistry then you shouldnt be trying to invent new procedures.

Title: 2Li + HCl + H2O --> LiOH + LiCl + H2 + big...
Post by: ApprenticeCook on September 22, 2004, 12:15:00 AM
2Li + HCl + H2O --> LiOH + LiCl + H2 + big boom....
Dont try it.

-AC

Title: With lithiumn foil, from batteries etc.
Post by: Lestat on September 22, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
With lithiumn foil, from batteries etc. that hasn't been compressed into a ball the reaction is just violent, not that likely to cause an explosion IMHO, at least that is, judging from the way sodium metal reacts in HCl ;)

*grins* *ducks for cover*

Title: Haiku of the Birch
Post by: Zen on September 22, 2004, 01:08:00 AM
a flake of metal,
a drop of honey makings,
and some N H 3.

mixed in a "kettle";
-33 C & no H 2 O,
a happy bee be.
Title: Once again I pose the question in the wrong...
Post by: Zen on September 22, 2004, 01:40:00 AM
Once again I pose the question in the wrong place.

Could dry NH3 vapours be used to gas a chilled Non Polar mixture containing 2Li:1E ?

Can the reductive electron be solvated by the gaseous phase?

DO I REALLY NEED A STAINLESS STEEL DRY ICE SUCKING MAMMOTH DEWAR CONDENSeR?

Condensers are cool.  8)