>>Jammin, concerning your low yields from the LWR.
Through time Swim has drawn a direct correlation
between the purity of the pseudo precursor (going into the rxn)
and the percentage of product coming back.
Well should have mentioned that i use european pills.
Many bees have told me that the pills from europe arent supergaked, cause there is no methcook problem here.
There isnt meth here at all really, just regular
amphetamine (dont ask me why never seen meth in the ten years i've been doing amphetamines)....
The pills are ephedrine.hcl not psuedoephedrine.
A box of 1000 pills weighs about 60g (+- 2g).
That means that it should be half e.hcl and half fillers/binders.
Unfortunally it dosent list inactives, but they are from pakistan,
and i doubt there is a methlab problem there...
I donno how gak behaves/looks like in the US, but with my are
very very small, and completely white with no coating.
Seems like they are filled with starch or something since pillmass
formed a gel when heated with water. All extraction tequnices i've tried
have all been colorless/white. It dosent seem to contain anything
that disolves in NP either.
>>Before eudragit, when Swim would pull pseudo via the tetra trap
and gassing. He would get back 50-74% product. The last rxn Swim
ran with pseudo pulled with denatured (from a different pill source)
was a laughable 33%.
As stated above Swim has no knowledge about the inactives. :/
Swim has on this batch only:
1. Extracted with hot IPA and filtered (50 ml IPA pr 6g pillmass).
2. Evaporated in pyrex oon low heat
3. Disolved in water and filtered
4. Evaped in pyrex on lowest stoved setting
Burns clean on alufoil.
Although he has not tested the purity in an other way
Yeild seems to be 80-90%, based on weight.
If a lot of gak followed the pulls on such a simple extraction
route one would expect the returnproduct to weight more then
the amount of e.hcl in the pills?
>>The 7.4 grams of pseudo may have actually only been 5 grams?
Perhaps. But then again, where the hell did the e.hcl go?
I would think that almost all of the e.hcl should follow
on such a simple route and not gak?
>>Did you do a burn test on it?
Left no residue/ash on foil. But it stained the foil.
>>Swim no longer questions the rxn or lab skills,
just the purity of the E going in.
Hmm... Well i feel that something is wrong somewhere in the post rxn here.
When i base the postrxn fluid the yellow layer that rises on top
should be the amines / meth oil, right?
Well that sure seemed like a hell of a lot more then 2.3 grams.
Is this often a contaminated layer?
>>I don't know if it was Chemosabe who mentioned it before,
but a bee mentioned leaving the mother jar of based goods
to set for a week or two and going back to it at a later
time to reclaim what may have been encapsulated by gakk.
Over time, the gakk will release the goods.
Hmm... he'll try this.
>>Swim has been doing this exact same thing for quite some
time now. Swim sees nothing wrong with how you ran your gear.
The strange thing is that i dont _ever_ get any emulsions
no matter how hard i shake the sep funnel. I've never even
had one that uses more than 30 secs to clear. And i've never
had any discoloration when i clean psuedo etc.
Except when i try to wash the postreaction fluid with
NP (toulene). Then it never ceases to be piss yellow.
I used about 1 litre on 50ml post reaction fluid.
Did ten washes, and it still did not clear. I thougth it was
excess I2, cause it was the typical I2-stain color.
But Osmium told me it wasnt:
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Jammin: Took of condenser and boiled off remaining iodine for 15 min.
Os: There is no iodine left, and even if there was you wouldn't be able to
remove it like that. And even if you could this is totally unnecessary,
all you did was boiling HI out of the flask which will colour your walls
yellow and corrode the shit out of everyting that's made from metals.
Jammin: NP looked pissyellow.
But he knew it was iodine as he has been there before and panicked...
Os: If you had evapped the washes you would have realised that this yellow
stuff isn't iodine. Iodine in NP solvents is colored purple, sometimes brown.
Do 3 washes. You can also use other amounts of NP solvent, e.g. 50-30-20ml.
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He used these NP solvent amounts now. He also used less water in the rxn fluid.
Are these rations correct?
>>Pseudo purity is a big issue right now. You got something
back, which means your a step ahead of god knows what
percentage of the population who are forced to flush
a complete failure in disgust.
Yep, he got something. Havent slept yet... damn.
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