hey geezmeister, really thanks a lot, was already thinking i'd spoiled it again -phew
clandestine: it started to react without heat, but only very low. it's done with the ratios mentioned by wareami some posts above for a HDR under most primitive conditions, with stuff like juice cans and tea candles ...
(as swim simply has not enough time alone to do a LWR in these days).
Again, thanks a lot to all, results, if any, will be posted, maybe they'll be of any use for i don't know who ...(?unlikely, but well, who knows?)