Author Topic: Arundo donax, aka Giant Reed  (Read 2166 times)

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gruns

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Arundo donax, aka Giant Reed
« on: July 16, 2003, 01:33:00 AM »

http://sun.ars-grin.gov%3A8080/npgspub/xsql/duke/plantdisp.xsql?taxon=130



According to this plant database, Arundo donax is third on
the list of the most concentrated herbal sources of n,n-dmt.
Unfortunately, it's also got a lot of other things in there.

ALPHA-AMYRIN-ACETATE
BETA-AMYRIN-ACETATE
BUFOTENINE   <---
CAMPESTEROL
FLAVONE-C-GLYCOSIDES
FRIEDELIN
LUPEOL
N,N-DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE

is what it lists as being in the "leaf" portion of the
plant, except it also lists things as being in the "plant"
portion of the plant, maybe that means it's found in all
portions?

If the "leaf" is only what's listed as "leaf", then that
leaves really bufotenine and nn-dmt, how would one
separate them?


urushibara

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column chromatography
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2003, 05:04:00 PM »
see the subject line


Vitus_Verdegast

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???
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2003, 08:01:00 PM »


Arundo donax is third on
the list of the most concentrated herbal sources of n,n-dmt




::)  That must have been an alphabetical list, the first two being Anadenanthera colubrina and peregrina.

Do you have a ref on the % of DMT Arundo donax L. (giant reed) contains?

When I was collecting "curious plants" a couple of years ago, I remember that A. Donax only containing traces of DMT.




Vitus_Verdegast

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Sound like a lot of supernatural baloney to me
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2003, 12:02:00 AM »
From

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/rare_and_exotic_drugs/add.html

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Arundo donax (aka "Giant Reed")

Yes. It contains some DMT, but not very much. Someone told me the other day that a friend of theirs that is investigating this (solicited samples from interested parties, and used thin layer chromatography to assay the root stocks, from what I was told) says there's "little or no DMT" in Arundo donax rhizomes.

The paper that first found DMT and a few other indole alkaloids in Arundo donax (Ghosal) working in India (River Reed is used in Ayurvedic medicine) also found only trace amounts. You'd have to extract several kilograms to get a psychoactive dose of DMT. There are also several cardioactive glycosides and other substances that would produce annoying side effects if a crude extract were consumed - the effect of Arundo donax extract on heart muscle (another paper by Ghosal et. al.) gave me the impression that crude Arundo extracts are potentially dangerous. You'd have to resort to solvent extraction followed by column chromatography to extract pure DMT from the roots - a process probably requiring several liters of solvent just to produce one dose of DMT.


gruns

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macademia
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2003, 09:58:00 AM »