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gyrogearloose
Member posted 09-18-1999 11:19 PM
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Found 25 grams under backseat of bill clintons old thunderbird sitting on the carlot where the elves live in the tool shed.
Made it into a nitrostyrene with nitroethane and ammonium acetate. Brilliant orange stuff the color of halloween. Will reduce it with LAH tonight.....
gyro
gyrogearloose
Member posted 09-21-1999 09:32 AM
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Hello it seems the elves found treasure here in minute dose level. Fantastic stuff...
Rhodium
Administrator posted 09-21-1999 11:34 AM
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What solvent did you use, and how did you add the nitrostyrene to the LAH solution? Shulgin uses his stange soxhlet apparatus for this synth...
Dextronautti
Junior Member posted 09-21-1999 12:32 PM
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Yes, gyrogearloose, tell us about it! The full set needed for Shulgin's perverse synth (soxhlet, thimbles, condenser) costs some $$$ and I suppose is a bit tough to use and clean. Do elaborate a bit on each steap please!
(I suppose there is no way around that though given the low solubility of the nitrostyrene)
Aromaticity
unregistered posted 09-21-1999 01:00 PM
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gyrogearloose,
Try nitromethane instead of nitroethane. That's what Native American racecar drivers use.
P.S.
Racecar is a palindrome.
Rhodium
Administrator posted 09-21-1999 05:01 PM
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Aromaticity: 2,4,6-trimethoxyphenethylamine is not active as far as I know. Mescaline is 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine if that was what you were thinking of.
CHEM GUY
Member posted 09-21-1999 09:32 PM
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I'm interested in this, What is the mechanics of this? What is the mechanism? Where can I learn more about this?
I looked on this rhodium site and couldn't find anything, I probably just over looked it.
Is the mechanism this?:
in the presence of (NH4)COCH3 @ ?C in methanol
2,4,6-(CH3O)-C6H5-C=O-H + CH3CH2NO3 -->
2,4,6-(CH3O)-C6H5-CH2-CH-NO2 + CO2 + H2
gyrogearloose
Member posted 09-22-1999 06:11 AM
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I folowed the shulgin instructions, I got one addition via modified soxlet with thimble made from glassblowing friend. Just did the instructions like he said, booooom.
Thsi stuff is something else. Mega experience, all were changed during it, it seemed like we had to grow to accept the experience. I cannot put into words.
gyro
Rhodium
Administrator posted 09-22-1999 08:30 AM
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Chem guy: Look in a organic chem text on "knoevenagel condensation" or "henry reaction".
Actually, when using nitroethane, the product is a 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene.
Benzaldehyde + Nitroethane => phenylnitropropene + water
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