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The Hive => Tryptamine Chemistry => Topic started by: smartbee on May 02, 2003, 10:07:00 AM

Title: diethylamine
Post by: smartbee on May 02, 2003, 10:07:00 AM
Hello! First time i post something.
      Diethyl Amine (cas# 109-89-7) is most likely watched since it's vital for making certain things and cannot easily be manufactured. Happily, one of the uses of DEA is to produce the solvent Diethyl Formamide (cas#617-84-5). If you examen DEF's structure, it's the condensation product of Diethyl Amine and Formic Acid. Now , the trick is to add a stronger base than DEA itself! In this case Sodium Hydroxide. The reaction is thus:

(CH3CH2)2OCOH + NaOH -> (CH3CH2)2 =HCOONa + H2O

Title: right formula...
Post by: Lilienthal on May 02, 2003, 04:13:00 PM
HCON(CH2CH3)2 + NaOH __> HN(CH2CH3)2 + HCOO-Na+
Title: more OTC-esque
Post by: cattleprodder on May 13, 2003, 02:54:00 AM
OFF! brand insect repellant contains roughly 23.80% N,N-diethyl-meta-toluamide which can be fractionally distilled and hydrolyzed with 6 N NaOH by refluxing for 6 to 12 hours to yield 3-methylbenzoic acid and some diethylamine, whose conventional abbreviation is NH(Et)2, not DEA, by the way.

Acid hydrolysis (6 normal as well) would also work. 

Hippies have good excuses to buy large amounts of insect repellant anyway I would suppose, at least in the south.
Title: The real stuff.
Post by: terbium on May 13, 2003, 06:01:00 AM
OFF! brand insect repellant contains roughly 23.80% N,N-diethyl-meta-toluamide 
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Hippies have good excuses to buy large amounts of insect repellant anyway I would suppose, at least in the south.

Geez, those are some mighty wimpy bugs you got down there. I use 100% DEET insect repellent.

Title: 100% DEET.
Post by: cattleprodder on May 13, 2003, 04:12:00 PM