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The Hive => Chemistry Discourse => Topic started by: NedKelly on July 10, 2003, 09:06:00 AM

Title: piperonal conversion questions
Post by: NedKelly on July 10, 2003, 09:06:00 AM
Title: What do you want to convert it to?
Post by: Bandil on July 10, 2003, 12:39:00 PM
What do you want to convert it to? MDP2NP, MDP2P or something totally different?

Nitroethane is what you want, and yes it's easy and cheap to obtain large amounts of. But if it's for the "wrong" use, you might not get to keep it nor your freedom for very long(depending on where you live)...

Regards

Title: MDP2P
Post by: NedKelly on July 11, 2003, 01:31:00 PM
mdma is the final dream

Title: could you direct me to a good recipe / writeup
Post by: NedKelly on July 11, 2003, 01:34:00 PM
Title: rhodium.ws has lots of shit... cowabunga dude...
Post by: pHarmacist on July 11, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000446104-file_sjqk.pl)

Title: Is this site about teaching and learning.
Post by: NedKelly on July 12, 2003, 04:12:00 AM
I understand people get the shits with people asking the same questions all the time and not using the search engine , So why chew my ass

 why are you flaming me , If you read , I did use the fucking search engine ! but I could not find the information I needed , Seen your so fucking smart why dont you answer my question or let someone else answer it .
Isn't this website about 'discussion'

Title: who removed my question ?
Post by: NedKelly on July 12, 2003, 04:14:00 AM
I wish to dicuse it with you.

Title: OK, if you want info on piperonal conversions,
Post by: El_Zorro on July 12, 2003, 12:07:00 PM
OK, if you want info on piperonal conversions, then just go to Rhodium's site.  There's a whole fucking section about piperonal conversions.  That should get you started.  Then after that, you should UTFSE, and use keywords like "piperonal", and "MDP2P".  Then when the results come up, read them ALL.  Then ask questions.

Title: Conversion
Post by: Barium on July 12, 2003, 12:34:00 PM
Is there a conversion method out there for piperonal, that uses chemicals that are easy to obtain in large amounts?

Easy to obtain in what sense? Can you get all permits or what? If so then just use a search engine to find a manufacturer and import what you need. Or do you mean easy to obtain for a garage cook who knows nothing about chemistry but wants to make MDMA, and will end up as Bubba's bitch for 30 years or so?

On Rhodium's site you will find usable methods for both cases. Look under MDMA and MDP2P. Oh, in case you haven't noticed - there is a link to Rhodium's site at the bottom of this page.

Title: Reply to NedKelly
Post by: Rhodium on July 13, 2003, 02:00:00 AM
I did use the fucking search engine ! but I could not find the information I needed

I find that very hard to believe. By plugging in either "piperonal and mdma" or "piperonal and mdp2p"* into TFSE you get around 80 hits for each query. If you truly had read those posts you would have had your answer by now. 

who removed my question? I wish to dicuse it with you.

Noone has removed your question, if you (as I assume) are referring to

Post 446104 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=6588.msg44610400#msg44610400)

(NedKelly: "piperonal conversion questions", Chemistry Discourse)
, it has just been negatively rated (because of the reason I mentioned above), and as you can read in the

FAQ (https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/faq.pl?Cat=#karma)

(https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/faq.pl?Cat=#karma), a negatively rated post is displayed with its title only, but can be accessed by clicking the post title.


* It takes very little research into MDMA chemistry to realize that those search terms are the obvious first choices, as MDP2P is the most common immedate precursor of MDMA.
Title: easier to help someone
Post by: bbell on August 06, 2003, 02:07:00 AM
Is it not easier to help someone than waste your time and his/hers but calling them names etc. etc. in other words be kind to human kind.