Here is a patent method of producing metal (alkali metals) cyanides from the corresponing nitrate or nitrite.
http://www.geocities.com/timsonguk/cyanide.pdf (http://www.geocities.com/timsonguk/cyanide.pdf)
does anybody have a practical way of using this patent with limited supplies availability?
How are your supplies limited ?
It isn't too hard to make a small electric arc furnace, you just need some fire brick/fireclay, graphite welding rods and a decent power supply (arc welder).
do you have graphic version of what you just said (and no, that doesn't mean verbally graphic) thanks for the help.
The furnace would be very simular to one needed to make phosphorus, check out some of the phosphorus threads, I remember one decribing the making a small arc furnace out of a clay flowerpot !
The arc furnace is decribed in detail in most good chemistry books, just scale down.
> do you have graphic version of what you just said (and
> no, that doesn't mean verbally graphic) thanks for the
> help.
What is your problem? Look at the link, it contains all you need. It helps to check page two if you know what I mean.
After reading the patent US6207024 regarding the preparation of phosphorus in which a mixture of phosphoric acid and carbon reductant are heated in microwaves at a much lower temperature than what would be needed in an electric furnace. It leaves me to believe that microwave heating of nitrite and carbon would give cyanide results at a much lower temperature too.
Obviously the microwave heating would have to be done in a non oxidising atmosphere (nitrogen/argon/helium).
Doing the same using nitrates and carbon may cause some problems as I can imagine the mix burning like gunpowder when rapidly heated in the microwaves.
The reaction chamber could consist of a fireclay container as this would not be affected by the microwaves.
What do you think bees ?
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