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The Hive => Chemistry Discourse => Topic started by: malvaxman on March 13, 2002, 05:39:00 PM

Title: Amphetamine salts
Post by: malvaxman on March 13, 2002, 05:39:00 PM
What diffrences are there between the diffrent amhetamine salts which are used; hydrochloride, sulphate, phosphate. (are there any other commonly used than those?) What diffrence are there in properties, color, structure, and taste?
Which amphetamine salt would you recommend?. For me phosphate sounds most tasty..  :) .
Title: Re: Amphetamine salts
Post by: Karl on March 13, 2002, 06:13:00 PM
The salts vary in solubility and others could be deliquescent like amphetamine hydrochloride, psychological action would be the same but dosages would of course vary according to how massive the anion of the acid is e.g. a sulphate or phosphate would require a higher dosage than the corresponding hydrochloride.
Title: Re: Amphetamine salts
Post by: Karl on March 13, 2002, 06:18:00 PM
Crystalline structure would also be different but you should observe that the colour would be the same white unless you use some 'exotic' acid
Title: Re: Amphetamine salts
Post by: Vibrating_Lights on March 13, 2002, 07:26:00 PM
Is there any acid that would produce a transparent blue crystal.  That would give a whole new name to designer drugs. "Can i get you the Blue ICE or the Purple Ice Sir?"
Vl_
Title: Re: Amphetamine salts
Post by: Flinger on March 14, 2002, 01:06:00 AM
I belive fabric dyes might be employed make shure theyre safe?  anyways lots of different salt work um the hcl salt might hit ya faster but storgae um other considerations um clorinatiuon in the stomach or um salt loading in the wrong compartment might cause um heated sensations,,,yes yes yes um heres one link

http://www.lut.fi/~hhatakka/docit/impure.html (http://www.lut.fi/~hhatakka/docit/impure.html)



http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/8785/xllink.html (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/8785/xllink.html)



http://aolsearch.aol.com/dirsearch.adp?start=&from=topsearchbox.%2Fdirsearch.adp&query=crystal+growth (http://aolsearch.aol.com/dirsearch.adp?start=&from=topsearchbox.%2Fdirsearch.adp&query=crystal+growth)



um a few to get ya started hope theres at least one good one in there,,,um crystal groweth is an art mostly outside of the USA, um I rember finding one great German site um offers for salt stuff like crystal atp as art of course.
cant locate as of late wondering if outa buisness, anyone?
Title: Re: Amphetamine salts
Post by: Flinger on March 14, 2002, 01:09:00 AM
hints:  um look for PHYSICIAL CHEMISTRY um and then look for stuff like ORGANIC CHEMISTRY  um salt out percipation PKA um there is stuff out there, its just better with high speed acess from the U.  not very convient must tarvel

oh yea um look um amines I forget what ya call them um ephedrine is often called one but, it issint one forget. name most drugs earlier prototypes are these type molecules a descriptive word often attached to eph but it issint one.