Well...most bees in my position would steer clear from this subject by adopting the "Once Bitten...Twice Shy" attitude.
But c`mon now....?%#!
This isn't your run`o the mill, average "assless chap" yer dealin with here! ;D
It's been common knowledge for the longest time which method of extraction produces a purer product.
Rhodium has always pushed Simple Distillation or Steam Distillation over A/Bing from all I've ever read!
He'll correct me if I'm wrong here.
Provided you have 100% quantity of the expected in solution, Yield will always be solely dependant on the skill level and experience of the extracter.
If 100% is in there to begin with, it's user error or lack of skill/experience if 100% isn't retrieved. Regardless of the method of extraction.
Many bees have been deterred from incorporating distillation because of the assumption that it takes an elaborate setup to carry out this process successfully.
I know! Ibee was deterred in the beginning because of his lack of understanding and labware.
After consulting Dwarfer and Orgy(thanx bees), Ibee's confidence level was increased when told he didn't need an elaborate set-up and some of the principals were outlined.
Some may opt to go with an elaborate setup if they have the equipment.
Ibee didn't have the equipment so he made a CRUDE distilling apparatus to get his feet wet and it worked like a charm.
He will still use this set-up if he finds himself gaaked but in cases where he's not gaaked, he's still more comfortable with the old familiar A/B for obtaining the goodz!
It's faster to base, pull, acidify and evap(A/B) than it is to base, distill, pull, acidify and evap.(distill)
But in cases where gaaked anti-xtalling agents are involved, the distilling would be the likeliest course to take.
Here is a pic of a CRUDE distilling setup as used per Ibee's corner successfully!
(https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000500427-crude1.gif)
Ibee recommends doing this properly with proper equipment but he set out at first to just prove to hmself it could be done this CRUDE way and he was satified it could bee!
And here is a link to a proper STEAM distillation unit by SHORTY that Ibee would recommend to all that are serious about STEAM distillationPost 490581 (https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8107.msg49058100#msg49058100)
(SHORTY: "Steam Distillation of Meth - With Diagram", Stimulants)
And I think I recall SHORTY pointing out that the STEAM part can be left out of the set-up if one wishes.
Excellent Job SHORTY!
Pictures are worth a thousand words and Ibee is visually driven. If it can't be mentally conceptualized(pictured), there's little chance that the bee will be driven to experimentally investigate it.
Simple distillation was one of those conceptual hurdles for Ibee until he was relatively confident he could pull it off.
Breaking down the basics is what gradually leads to fuller understanding.
This link will provide some basics if you haven't seen these yet!
http://www.chem.cuhk.edu.hk/labtech/index.asp (http://www.chem.cuhk.edu.hk/labtech/index.asp)
(Found on Rhodium's Site under Multimedia)
I encourage AWE Bees to watch these videos to get all sorts of basic lab tips!
The audio is in chinese but has english captions but you can just look at the pictures if your like The Kidz ;D ;)
The introduction of this CRUDE simple distillation is by no means meant to be settled on as a final set-up.
It's merely a tool that can be used until bees advance to a stage of building a proper efficient unit.
Ibee promised aztec long ago he'd post this once he worked the kinks out.
so here is a basic description of The CRUDE Simple Distillation.
He's no authority so hopefully this will generate some feedback and pointers that Ibee may be missing.
With the CRUDE setup pictured above, just use a glass tube through the stopper connected to aquarium tubing. Ibee used a 4inch glass tube protruding into the stopper then connected aquarium tubing to it at the exit point of the flask
Don't let the glass tube protrude down near the liquid being distilled. Set UP as pictured and it will work fine.
Never fill the distilling flask past the 2/3 mark.
Post-rxn filter to get the honey.
Add dh2o to dilute some.
Base to pH13-15
Cap off with stopper/tubing and set flask into oilbath.
Run tubing into receiving flask.
Ibee cranks his wok up to 350°F
A steady rolling boil is what is looked for and then the FB will start coming over along with some waste water.
After all the oil is collected, separate the water and put back into distilling flask as it will still have some residual M molecules.
Wash the oil with clean h2o and put the wash water into the distilling flask for the same reason as above.
Add NP to the oil to pull the oil then titrate the NP with dh2o and hcl.
There ya have it!
CRUDE and Simple! :)