im bout to atempt the sodium borohydride reaction but have a few concerns regarding the amine i need. I have no way of obtaining Amonium acetate but have shit loads of amonium sulfate. I know i can drip NaoH onto it and buble it into methanol (cold) and use the amonium/methanol solution but i havent seen any info regarding this and for a silly qustion can i use the amonium sulphate as is ???????? Abviously i want MDA and its Amonium Persulfate wich isnt much diferance or is it..........
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You are going to make MDA using sodium borohydride as the reducing agent? And most people thought that sodium cyanoborohydride was required!
To paraphrase an engineer joke:
"Yesterday I couldn't even spell amonium and now I are a chemist!"
Yes, drip concentrated NaOH onto ammonium sulfate, and lead the gas into chilled methanol to get a methanolic ammonia solution. This can then be used together with a drying agent, MDP2P and NaBH4 to produce MDA. You cannot use ammonium persulfate here.
yes i didnt think you could use the sulfate as is. So for a 500g batch of MDP2P i should have atleast 1kg of amonium in methanol and the drying agent should it anhydrous epson salts??
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Just an idea: maybe you should use the search engine, do some small scale experimentation first and then post a detailed writeup before trying industrial scale production.
the 2-1 ratio of amonium to MDP2P is taken from the NaBH4 write up im just replaceing amonium acetate with the amonium solution but im not sure about correct ratios. I did not think that 500g would be clasified as industrial but maby 10kg+. and is a drying agent absolute necesary with out too much loss in yield
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