The Vespiary
The Hive => Newbee Forum => Topic started by: officer_murphy on June 01, 2004, 04:41:00 PM
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ok so say u had a dry alcohol n made the sodium salt with sodium yes?
R-OH + Na ---> R-O(-) + Na(+) + H
ok now we do some electrolosis
Na(+) + e(-) ---> Na (cathode)
here is where i am stuck :(
(anode) R-O(-) - e(-) ---> ???????????
i came up with 2 possibilities(i think):
R-O(-) - e(-) ---> R=O + H (primary/secondary alcohol)
R-O(-) - e(-) ---> some form of alkene? + O
im assumin only C H O r present in the molecule
if u can help id be very gratefull thank you :P
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ok i did some stuff n now i came up with this:(from the top)
*NH3 + R-OH --> NH4(+) + R-O(-)
*CATHODE: NH4(+) + e(-) --> NH3 + H
*ANODE: R-O(-) - e(-) --> R=O + H
*R=O + NH3 --> R=NH + H2O <<<do u think this imine will get reduced on one of the electrodes?hmmmmm time to experiment i think
and its legal :o ooops i just remembred i dont have a lab
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your post seems to spawn from the ramblings of an excited pre-pubescent student or a old geriatric.
Could you please in future make your posts formated and easy to read, i cant understand what your asking or explaining...
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He wants to electrolyze ethanol?
Perhaps to anodically oxidize it to acetaldehyde?
Surely it would be aldol-ed to hell by the strong ethoxide base present, as soon as it was formed?
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ning your guess is as good as mine, thats what i thought reading this but to what end???
Your right it would fly off on another tangent before creating anything usefull from what i can scrape from the post.
Hmmm.